punishment for not flying china
03-14-2020, 11:00 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
The company wont listen because people continue to fly the 3 leg HKG loop pairing that fails the FERC parameters. The company wont listen because the union puts out numerous communications about the day room pairings and the lack of sleep opportunity yet our group continues to fly them (possibly fatigued) even when they have failed the fatigue testing software. They are disputed pairings yet they continue to get flown. How can the negotiations committee negotiate anything with our pilot groups lack of fortitude? Look in the mirror you may be part of the problem.
I have never flown a disputed pairing. I’m not HKG based, so not sure how I‘d fly the HKG loop pairing.
You’re the one that thinks we’re scared. I’m not, I’d opt out today..
03-14-2020, 03:57 PM
#102
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
The company wont listen because people continue to fly the 3 leg HKG loop pairing that fails the FERC parameters. The company wont listen because the union puts out numerous communications about the day room pairings and the lack of sleep opportunity yet our group continues to fly them (possibly fatigued) even when they have failed the fatigue testing software. They are disputed pairings yet they continue to get flown. How can the negotiations committee negotiate anything with our pilot groups lack of fortitude? Look in the mirror you may be part of the problem.
Last edited by MrSuupafly; 03-14-2020 at 04:17 PM.
03-14-2020, 04:25 PM
#103
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Posts: 247
Originally Posted by kronan
Kind of reminds me of JL's reported comment after being asked about calling in sick on reserve and remaining 1st Fly.
04-05-2020, 05:53 PM
#104
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Contract ends next summer. We should be using our leverage to get a better A Plan and contract. If guys keep picking up the slack, we'll lose out when the company isn't so pressed. UPS got an A plan increase. FedEx can afford it too.
We should, but history proves that many see no leverage. And, everyone should have been saving 3-4 months of pay up for the coming games. But I would guess that I am in the minority.
04-05-2020, 05:58 PM
#105
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Dude step up if you see a safety or fatigue issue. This is what many of our elders are talking about when they say FedEx is made up by a bunch of “sub contractors” and “mission oriented” pilots. You want something the company wont give you and you then waffle because its time to step up when your union asks you to. I see the fear in you. Do you think your excuses and behavior will reap rewards in contract 2021? STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND BE A SAFE PILOT.
You seem to have a grasp on many issues, and are engaged. But holy fock, dont be such a condescending SOB. The people you disrespect with your comments have been around the fence before. Don't act like someones grandpa. Just some brotherly advice.
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