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Old 03-31-2020, 05:58 AM
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Yet we have been risking exactly that since the temperature checks began in early February, and the union thought it was only worth 4.5 hours per layover, not even per day.
Not the same threat by a long shot. We were all carrying around company provided thermometers (or should have been) so unlikely that it would be a surprise. Not to mention, it's not that difficult for most of us to figure out we have a fever just on it's own. Bottom line, walking into a temp check uninformed is on us. Getting tapped for a possible bogus result on a virus test or popping positive while asymptomatic is a very different situation.
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Any of you folks on JetFlyers or any other information sharing method in use, need to make sure this info is being disseminated. Not just the scrubbed FCIF fluff, but the fact that almost everyone is refusing this and make sure the chance of some random, uninformed guy on reserve who never sees China finds himself in a bad position staring at the business end of a giant Q-tip. So far, the implication from much of what's come out of flight ops officially has been that it's happening, but implying we'd be real pleased if you went along with it and took one for the team. That decision needs to be made before taking off for a China destination. Don't let some idiot whose blood flows purple start setting precedent for us all by doing the lemming act and just going along.
Dang me and you are getting on the same page finally. This is what I have been saying for almost 3 months now. We must self police. This is the companies fault. They could have made operational changes to head of so many issues but have refused because it may have costed a few extra bucks. I still think back to the TPE lounge issue and Saigon Loop pairing. The union was very clear in what they asked of the crew and very few if any did it. This is the problem with our pilot group. One or two hold the line and 2 others are on a "mission". The company has lied and given half truths in numerous FCIF's in regards to China, Covid, FAR 117 and so on. They love it when our pilots look at FedEx as if it was a military mission. They take advantage of this. We must start having educational conversations with our crew members about what it means to be UNIFIED. We have pilots screaming on Jetflyers about safety and then you look up their calendar and they are flying a tone extra. Better yet many block their schedule. Why would they do that haha? We must get our low hanging fruit to step up. These are all safety issues and we must never let safety be looked over for the almighty dollar.

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Old 03-31-2020, 09:39 AM
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Wait...the Chinese government removed his China visa?

Yes, Peeled it out of his passport. Doubt he will ever get it back. CAN ops suspend for 24 hours now. No 777 flights tonight. Stuck here another night.
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:52 AM
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Not the same threat by a long shot. We were all carrying around company provided thermometers (or should have been) so unlikely that it would be a surprise. Not to mention, it's not that difficult for most of us to figure out we have a fever just on it's own. Bottom line, walking into a temp check uninformed is on us. Getting tapped for a possible bogus result on a virus test or popping positive while asymptomatic is a very different situation.

Not commenting one way or the other but people can develop fevers literally over an hour. You can be at normal temperature at takeoff and then have a fever an hour later.
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Yes, Peeled it out of his passport. Doubt he will ever get it back. CAN ops suspend for 24 hours now. No 777 flights tonight. Stuck here another night.
Did you allow them to do the swab tests?
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I came in 90 minutes prior to them starting the testing so no I did not get tested.
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Thanks for the information guys. I’m not on FB so can’t access the info on JF.
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Thanks for the information guys. I’m not on FB so can’t access the info on JF.
If you want to be kept informed, the most up to date information is on the Jetflyer's group on FB. The information there might save your life, so it might be a good idea to join.
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Thanks for the information guys. I’m not on FB so can’t access the info on JF.
Same boat. Does anyone have an update on CAN or China ops in general?
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Same boat. Does anyone have an update on CAN or China ops in general?
This email was sent from the DO to a long list of pilots who are either using the air bridge from HKG or scheduled to operate into CAN. The air bridge left Hong Kong at 1715L and about 2 hours later the 13 lemmings, uh I mean pilots, who were on it are still processing right now.
3 HKG captains and 1FO who were also supposed to be on the air bridge refused their trips based on concerns over the unknowns not covered in that email below. There are hopes and promises about what might happen In the event of a positive test result, but nothing definitive. The bottom line is it’s entirely up to China should someone test positive and FedEx is gambling that their local people can somehow influence the outcome. But in the end, they have absolutely no idea what the final resolution will be. The underlined and italicized statement is FedEx tap dancing around the reality that they have no control over the situation. The other wrinkle is that should a pilot test positive, any family members he has back in Hong Kong will be subject to quarantine and treatment in a local public hospital since no private hospitals (the preferred ones) are allowing quarantine cases. There are also instances of children being separated from parents during such quarantine events. So we have pilots in China risking possible quarantine in a Chinese hospital, while their spouse could be forced into a local Hong Kong Public hospital and be separated from their children. All for 150% or maybe straight time with some of them.

CAN Inbound CIQ Process

We are planning the full schedule of inbound operations into the CAN hub for the evening of 01 APR 20. Our teams have been working tirelessly to secure the needed agreements for the continued operations. This will include the following measures:
  • Front of the line priority during health screening for our crews at the passenger terminal;
  • A throat swab performed by local CDC staff;
    • If asked about nasal swab, decline test. This will result in a second throat swab.
  • FedEx Security will be present to assist with any issues or translation needs.
As stated in FCIF 20-0238, in the event a crewmember were to test positive in any location, that notification would be immediately shared with FedEx Security. FedEx would begin immediate efforts to return the crewmember to base, including through the use of air ambulance if necessary, depending on the crewmember’s health, doctor’s recommendations, and host country allowances.



Thank you for your patience and efforts during this time, and we believe this improved process will provide a sustainable solution for our CAN operation
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