China testing FCIF
#21
Not the same threat by a long shot. We were all carrying around company provided thermometers (or should have been) so unlikely that it would be a surprise. Not to mention, it's not that difficult for most of us to figure out we have a fever just on it's own. Bottom line, walking into a temp check uninformed is on us. Getting tapped for a possible bogus result on a virus test or popping positive while asymptomatic is a very different situation.
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Any of you folks on JetFlyers or any other information sharing method in use, need to make sure this info is being disseminated. Not just the scrubbed FCIF fluff, but the fact that almost everyone is refusing this and make sure the chance of some random, uninformed guy on reserve who never sees China finds himself in a bad position staring at the business end of a giant Q-tip. So far, the implication from much of what's come out of flight ops officially has been that it's happening, but implying we'd be real pleased if you went along with it and took one for the team. That decision needs to be made before taking off for a China destination. Don't let some idiot whose blood flows purple start setting precedent for us all by doing the lemming act and just going along.
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Not the same threat by a long shot. We were all carrying around company provided thermometers (or should have been) so unlikely that it would be a surprise. Not to mention, it's not that difficult for most of us to figure out we have a fever just on it's own. Bottom line, walking into a temp check uninformed is on us. Getting tapped for a possible bogus result on a virus test or popping positive while asymptomatic is a very different situation.
Not commenting one way or the other but people can develop fevers literally over an hour. You can be at normal temperature at takeoff and then have a fever an hour later.
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This email was sent from the DO to a long list of pilots who are either using the air bridge from HKG or scheduled to operate into CAN. The air bridge left Hong Kong at 1715L and about 2 hours later the 13 lemmings, uh I mean pilots, who were on it are still processing right now.
3 HKG captains and 1FO who were also supposed to be on the air bridge refused their trips based on concerns over the unknowns not covered in that email below. There are hopes and promises about what might happen In the event of a positive test result, but nothing definitive. The bottom line is it’s entirely up to China should someone test positive and FedEx is gambling that their local people can somehow influence the outcome. But in the end, they have absolutely no idea what the final resolution will be. The underlined and italicized statement is FedEx tap dancing around the reality that they have no control over the situation. The other wrinkle is that should a pilot test positive, any family members he has back in Hong Kong will be subject to quarantine and treatment in a local public hospital since no private hospitals (the preferred ones) are allowing quarantine cases. There are also instances of children being separated from parents during such quarantine events. So we have pilots in China risking possible quarantine in a Chinese hospital, while their spouse could be forced into a local Hong Kong Public hospital and be separated from their children. All for 150% or maybe straight time with some of them.
CAN Inbound CIQ Process
We are planning the full schedule of inbound operations into the CAN hub for the evening of 01 APR 20. Our teams have been working tirelessly to secure the needed agreements for the continued operations. This will include the following measures:
Thank you for your patience and efforts during this time, and we believe this improved process will provide a sustainable solution for our CAN operation
3 HKG captains and 1FO who were also supposed to be on the air bridge refused their trips based on concerns over the unknowns not covered in that email below. There are hopes and promises about what might happen In the event of a positive test result, but nothing definitive. The bottom line is it’s entirely up to China should someone test positive and FedEx is gambling that their local people can somehow influence the outcome. But in the end, they have absolutely no idea what the final resolution will be. The underlined and italicized statement is FedEx tap dancing around the reality that they have no control over the situation. The other wrinkle is that should a pilot test positive, any family members he has back in Hong Kong will be subject to quarantine and treatment in a local public hospital since no private hospitals (the preferred ones) are allowing quarantine cases. There are also instances of children being separated from parents during such quarantine events. So we have pilots in China risking possible quarantine in a Chinese hospital, while their spouse could be forced into a local Hong Kong Public hospital and be separated from their children. All for 150% or maybe straight time with some of them.
CAN Inbound CIQ Process
We are planning the full schedule of inbound operations into the CAN hub for the evening of 01 APR 20. Our teams have been working tirelessly to secure the needed agreements for the continued operations. This will include the following measures:
- Front of the line priority during health screening for our crews at the passenger terminal;
- A throat swab performed by local CDC staff;
- If asked about nasal swab, decline test. This will result in a second throat swab.
- FedEx Security will be present to assist with any issues or translation needs.
Thank you for your patience and efforts during this time, and we believe this improved process will provide a sustainable solution for our CAN operation
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