Do the FDX 777s use Engine Out SIDs in the FMC database? I’ve seen cases where the EO SID was accidentally executed during the Takeoff Briefing instead of just reviewed. The EO profile for HKG has a slight left turn from 07R and then once clear of the hills a right turn to stay over the harbor. This flight track looks similar but the right turn was late which could be a result of confusion in the cockpit once realizing something wasn’t right.

Thankfully, HKG ATC is amongst the best in the world and watches terrain separation very carefully. Many airlines have made mistakes in HKG.

 

No, 777 from HKG does not have FMC help. Has to be done without.

 

As far as I know, there are no EO SIDS in our data base. It’s been a couple of years since I’ve flown the 777, but you had to use fixes and radials for EO situational awareness.

 

My observation is that information does get disseminated in the organized and administrative manner.
Example:
1. Crew has event
2. Crew files ASAP
Most airline ASAP agreements require absolute confidentiality as FAA ASAP Rep, Management ASAP Rep, Union ASAP Rep process and determine ASAP resolution. This is not done fast enough for the pilot group desiring "I want it now" (which is normal)
2.A If stateside and a NTSB reportable event, It also is confidential and must be NTSB complete before anything passed to crews. This can be lengthy (months...)
3. Airline must work with Safety protocols, Government regulatory officials. This is a confidential time zone required by regulations and various processes. As ASAP, official results never fast enough. Can take weeks or longer to have final determination and results of what occurred officially.
4. ASAP, Airline Safety groups (including training etc) , Regulatory bodies finally wrap up the event. Information sent out months later to crews in various methods (airline dependent) for learning by all crews.
I always hear fellow pilots say they never pass the info. Often they don't read the reports administratively released quarterly or whatever a routine cycle is used at the company to pick up the lessons learned from the event months earlier.
5. Am sure some companies don't release these details ever. But the unions are usually effective at least getting some info (ASAP info etc) once complete.

 

What about the Airbus cargo fire and emergency landing in ABQ the other night? It sounds like the crew did it right, but crickets...

 

LOL
point 2 in my previous post

 

It was a spoofer- fake news. Apparently happened 2003... not recently. D3 has apologized for blasting that narrative out over email. "first clue shoulda been the fact that it referenced an A310..."

 

Did he send that out April 1st?

 

April 4th


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