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303flyboy 10-12-2020 06:37 PM
Offline Intl JS
 
Colleagues,

Curious if there is any movement on this subject at all or still the status quo ?

CloudSailor 10-13-2020 09:29 AM
Originally Posted by 303flyboy (Post 3144350)
Colleagues,

Curious if there is any movement on this subject at all or still the status quo ?
Unfortunately, no movement on international jumpseats.

UnusualAttitude 10-13-2020 09:33 AM
There is a unique culture towards jumpseaters at Purple. I don’t see there being any traction towards allowing international offline jumpseaters anytime soon. COVID will only further push back progress which I don’t believe had started going anywhere before COVID.

C2078 10-13-2020 09:59 AM
Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude (Post 3144655)
There is a unique culture towards jumpseaters at Purple. I don’t see there being any traction towards allowing international offline jumpseaters anytime soon. COVID will only further push back progress which I don’t believe had started going anywhere before COVID.
Unique as in hostile?

CloudSailor 10-13-2020 10:15 AM
Originally Posted by C2078 (Post 3144668)
Unique as in hostile?
Not at all.

I *believe* that since on most of our int'l flights the off-line jumpseater would be in the cockpit j/s, TSA does not allow it (nor at any other airline).

BluePAX 10-13-2020 10:24 AM
Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3144678)
Not at all.

I *believe* that since on most of our int'l flights the off-line jumpseater would be in the cockpit j/s, TSA does not allow it (nor at any other airline).

99% true, however Atlas allows offline intl JS for whatever reason

WhipWhitaker 10-13-2020 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3144678)
Not at all.

I *believe* that since on most of our int'l flights the off-line jumpseater would be in the cockpit j/s, TSA does not allow it (nor at any other airline).
Atlas/Southern and Kalitta both offer cockpit jumpseats on international flights. Not a shot at FedEx, your js program is the best in the business, but it isn’t a regulatory issue.

CloudSailor 10-13-2020 10:48 AM
Originally Posted by BluePAX (Post 3144684)
99% true, however Atlas allows offline intl JS for whatever reason
Do they have reinforced cockpit doors that keep jumpseaters outside the cockpit?

BluePAX 10-13-2020 12:18 PM
Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3144696)
Do they have reinforced cockpit doors that keep jumpseaters outside the cockpit?
That isn't the issue. I​​​​​ believe it is more the way their ops specs are written that allows it. It's a great benefit and one I hope will extend to the rest of the cargo operators someday.

Sluggo_63 10-13-2020 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3144696)
Do they have reinforced cockpit doors that keep jumpseaters outside the cockpit?
Do you mean doors like our MD-11s have?


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