Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3269614)

But the MEC just worked it out with ALPA that sick buy back isn't subject to union dues. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3269724)

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but employees in good standing do not have any penalty points on their secret profile from using sick leave. As long as employees are dis-incentivized from using sick time by the threat of discipline or a company-mandated medical evaluation by a doctor of the company's choosing, pilots will be compelled to come to work sick if in fear of retribution.

OP's beef is with the company's power (enabled by the current contract), not employees who are trying to remain out of the CP's office or a hire-or-fire medical exam that will follow one forever if terminated. Don't think I noticed removing this clause as a priority in our openers brief so one ought to make peace with the current situation.

Bottom line - don't hate the sniffles, hate the game. DR K

Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3269724)

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but employees in good standing do not have any penalty points on their secret profile from using sick leave. As long as employees are dis-incentivized from using sick time by the threat of discipline or a company-mandated medical evaluation by a doctor of the company's choosing, pilots will be compelled to come to work sick if in fear of retribution.

OP's beef is with the company's power (enabled by the current contract), not employees who are trying to remain out of the CP's office or a hire-or-fire medical exam that will follow one forever if terminated. Don't think I noticed removing this clause as a priority in our openers brief so one ought to make peace with the current situation.

Bottom line - don't hate the sniffles, hate the game. DR K

Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3269724)

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but employees in good standing do not have any penalty points on their secret profile from using sick leave. As long as employees are dis-incentivized from using sick time by the threat of discipline or a company-mandated medical evaluation by a doctor of the company's choosing, pilots will be compelled to come to work sick if in fear of retribution.

OP's beef is with the company's power (enabled by the current contract), not employees who are trying to remain out of the CP's office or a hire-or-fire medical exam that will follow one forever if terminated. Don't think I noticed removing this clause as a priority in our openers brief so one ought to make peace with the current situation.

Bottom line - don't hate the sniffles, hate the game. DR K

Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3270308)

This sounds more like an excuse for ones inability to make a choice. It seems our pilot group has the same problem with fatigue calls. Always someone else’s fault for ones poor decisions.

At my previous major we had “unlimited” sick time yet the same problem. Pilots always making excuses for greed.

Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 3270333)

Dude stop with your crap already. We are adults/professionals and should be treated as such. We get all these compliments on how well of a job we are doing yet requires a childish doctors note for calling in sick. And we get negative points based on the time of year we call in sick. “Holidays”

Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3270339)

We had the same point system at my previous major. Of course nobody knows what the point system is or how it’s tracked. It’s not that hard to provide a doctors note if asked. Go to CVS, Walgreens or a minute clinic. Not hard. Once again you are either fit to fly or not. Thats the authority the FAA gives you as an airman. Stop making lame excuses for not doing the correct thing.

Originally Posted by Galley Slave (Post 3270404)

What if one is just “sick and tired of….” Does that count as sick?