When will the new contract be out to vote upon?

If past history is any indicator, it will be two years after the amendable date.

You will get 3% and like it, but they will change the work rules so they recoup the increase over the life of the contract in six months, and brag about it on the investor's call.

The NC will say it's the best deal we can get, then after it is signed, it will be clear that we got played once again.

Oh, and the "lie flat seats" clause won't affect our first class deadhead tickets. We've seen how that lie played out, haven't we?

If you trust the NC to overhaul your retirement with the pancake plan, you've been locked in too many hotel rooms for too long.

If the pancake plan is in the deal, it is an automatic no vote from me, and should be from everyone.

I don't see any good news in our future unless the TA is voted down, the MEC resigns, and the new MEC actually agrees to listen to the membership, instead of pushing their own agendas.

Years from now.

That’s why the 2015 TA should have been DOA. A 6 year agreement is really an 8 year agreement. I spoke with the NC during one of their roadshow presentations about the lie-flat seat language in the TA. They told us all the old contract language is still there. You will still have your bank, etc. I told them to read the TA like a lawyer. The lie-flat language was inserted above the old language and the old language becomes subordinate to the new lie-flat language.

Our NC and lawyers should have caught that, but they didn't, because they were not smart enough and got played. Based on that example, I don't trust them to negotiate a completely new retirement system, especially one where the value of a pancake is not defined until the day you retire.

You know ALPA does nothing for retirees, don't you? Do you think anyone will help when you get screwed out of your retirement?

Don't trust the pancake plan. Vote no for any pancake retirement!

Truest statement ever. Can't collect dues from retirees... so why bother? ALPA just wants your money. They don't care about your comfort, your days off, or your retirement quality.

Even though I see and feel like FedEx pilots are much more united than they were in 2005, make no mistake, there are many among us who will sell us out in a heartbeat.

I have a feeling we're going to see a contract much sooner than we think. Why? Every other airline but UPS is in contract negotiations. FedEx doesn't want to go last because then it will give FedEx pilots something to benchmark against. If we go first, management gets to lock us in lower wages for the life of the contract while ALPA gets to brag how we had an "industry leading contract" all of about a few months -- just like in 2015.

Isn’t retirement for us as retirees at some point? Isn’t that one of the main items we are going after in this round of negotiations?

Now who looks stupid? YOU

Wrong again! You’re still the stupid in the room! It’s like a game of tag, and the slow one, you, are always “IT!”

So you are not going to retire at some point? Retirement money is deferred compensation. It benefits every current pilot when they retire. Simple