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Anthrax 09-18-2021 07:15 AM

Insult
 
A buddy said that the past predicts the future at the table of negotiations. They lowball us, we midball them, the rich get richer on the backs of our labor, and we get enough to take out a nice mortgage in the suburbs. But the past has zero precedent on the sheeot of today. Asking for concessions, delaying a TA, playing us like it was yesterday at a time when our layovers were longer and our workdays shorter, when today from city to city we get the pleasure of experiencing their version of a lockdown, country to country, restaurants closed here’s your catering, same catering as yesterday and the day before, you are welcome, good job, atta boy, keep up the good work … are you eff’ing kidding me? Really? Half the country sits at home collecting free money and we’re delivering them free sheeot and fine, happy to do so … pay us! Do not insult us! Pay us! It ain’t yesterday. Yesterday is dead. Pay Us!! Yes. You! we all know you read these forums to get a feel for the opposition, and lets be honest here, that’s exactly how you see us, as the opposition and not a part of the team. Fine. I’ll tell you how we feel. Fatigued. To the bone. Pay Us!

hoya saxa 09-18-2021 07:34 AM

Although I feel like I’m reading Hunter S. Thompson I 1000% agree with everything you said!


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Meat Fighter 09-18-2021 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Anthrax (Post 3296968)
A buddy said that the past predicts the future at the table of negotiations. They lowball us, we midball them, the rich get richer on the backs of our labor, and we get enough to take out a nice mortgage in the suburbs. But the past has zero precedent on the sheeot of today. Asking for concessions, delaying a TA, playing us like it was yesterday at a time when our layovers were longer and our workdays shorter, when today from city to city we get the pleasure of experiencing their version of a lockdown, country to country, restaurants closed here’s your catering, same catering as yesterday and the day before, you are welcome, good job, atta boy, keep up the good work … are you eff’ing kidding me? Really? Half the country sits at home collecting free money and we’re delivering them free sheeot and fine, happy to do so … pay us! Do not insult us! Pay us! It ain’t yesterday. Yesterday is dead. Pay Us!! Yes. You! we all know you read these forums to get a feel for the opposition, and lets be honest here, that’s exactly how you see us, as the opposition and not a part of the team. Fine. I’ll tell you how we feel. Fatigued. To the bone. Pay Us!

Well said.

Can't wait to exercise my right to vote.

Temocil27 09-18-2021 10:03 AM

I 100% agree with everything you said. The company sees us picking up AVA and accepting draft trips as a sign we’re still willing to sell each other out for a few more dollars. The union leaders don’t seem to care what the pilot group thinks and they are also willing to sell us out for a few more dollars. It’s the most bizarre company/union relationship I’ve ever experienced.

Broccoli Rob 09-18-2021 10:18 AM

I thought Fred was really pro pilot? Didn't he always take the attitude of "if you take care of me, I'll take care of you?" Seems like you guys have to fight for your contact just as hard as everybody else.

USMCFDX 09-18-2021 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Broccoli Rob (Post 3297062)
I thought Fred was really pro pilot? Didn't he always take the attitude of "if you take care of me, I'll take care of you?" Seems like you guys have to fight for your contact just as hard as everybody else.

No, no so much.

Here is just one of the many Red Letters - I encourage all FedEx pilots to read them all found here - FDX Pilot History Timeline


"with or without you"
http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...17,%201998.pdf

opt0712 09-18-2021 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 3297098)
No, no so much.

Here is just one of the many Red Letters - I encourage all FedEx pilots to read them all found here - FDX Pilot History Timeline


"with or without you"
http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...17,%201998.pdf

This. Please, please to all new hires, especially the military guys, read the red letter and history timeline.

Stan446 09-18-2021 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 3297098)
No, no so much.

Here is just one of the many Red Letters - I encourage all FedEx pilots to read them all found here - FDX Pilot History Timeline


"with or without you"
http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...17,%201998.pdf

Thanks for posting the link. I don't think I ever read the letter, it just ****ed off a lot of pilots. A lot of bluffing in Fred's threats.

Merle Haggard 09-18-2021 02:44 PM

Very well said.

There are a ton of young pilots - educate!

MD11FLYER 09-18-2021 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Anthrax (Post 3296968)
A buddy said that the past predicts the future at the table of negotiations. They lowball us, we midball them, the rich get richer on the backs of our labor, and we get enough to take out a nice mortgage in the suburbs. But the past has zero precedent on the sheeot of today. Asking for concessions, delaying a TA, playing us like it was yesterday at a time when our layovers were longer and our workdays shorter, when today from city to city we get the pleasure of experiencing their version of a lockdown, country to country, restaurants closed here’s your catering, same catering as yesterday and the day before, you are welcome, good job, atta boy, keep up the good work … are you eff’ing kidding me? Really? Half the country sits at home collecting free money and we’re delivering them free sheeot and fine, happy to do so … pay us! Do not insult us! Pay us! It ain’t yesterday. Yesterday is dead. Pay Us!! Yes. You! we all know you read these forums to get a feel for the opposition, and lets be honest here, that’s exactly how you see us, as the opposition and not a part of the team. Fine. I’ll tell you how we feel. Fatigued. To the bone. Pay Us!


WELL SAID!!!!!!! Couldn’t agree more


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