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Old 12-23-2022, 08:41 AM
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If you want to add credence to the (non pilot) executive leadership that you're worth less than a Delta pilot, then dressing like other work groups (that are paid significantly less) will surely make that point. How about going in a completely different direction, everyone wear the (hated) hat, in the crew room in front of your peers, in front of management. Flight management knows how loathed the hat is, can you imagine the optics and unspoken messaging that would be sent up the ranks if YOUR UNION requested everyone, in support of unity, put on such a despised part of your uniform. The messaging would be very clear, the company couldn't call it a work action, and the union could even call it out as a reinforcement of the professional standards of this profession. Compared to the lanyards that have typically been the union request (and notably ignored by some groups), you would be showing your fellow FDX pilots, who is on board and just how indignant you are about the current state.
Are hats even available for purchase any more? I haven’t seen it on M&H.
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Old 12-23-2022, 08:46 AM
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That would be cool if there was a way for someone hired in the last six years to buy a hat…
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:36 AM
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Hat and Blazer....I'm in.
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal View Post
Hat and Blazer....I'm in.
less is more.
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Old 12-23-2022, 11:14 AM
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How about going in a completely different direction, everyone wear the (hated) hat, in the crew room in front of your peers, in front of management.
The Subic guys did that when we were in contract talks in 2005....
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Old 12-23-2022, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HooverPilot View Post
That would be cool if there was a way for someone hired in the last six years to buy a hat…
Check the vendors website. Do it before the end of the year and spend the companies coin on your remaining uniform allowance. Ask your flight manager how to get the Fedex emblem. After the contact is settled, give it to your kid to dress up for the next Halloween.
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Old 12-24-2022, 06:34 AM
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If you are an international pilot, then you understand. YES, wearing the uniform makes a big difference. In many countries and cultures, pilots are given a lot of respect and attention. In China, you CAN NOT get the duty officer exemption of not wearing the pilot uniform. Ask me how I know. In other words, you must be in uniform to operate the aircraft because China customs and rules.

I fought hard for relaxed clothing when deadheading in Business/First. Lost that battle. I fought hard for a relaxed shaving protocol. Lost that battle too. Our passenger airline partners require business casual when they deadhead; but we're expected to wear dress slacks and a dress shirt (full button down shirt) which is extra crap I have to carry in my bag.

My biggest pet peave is being in a 5-star international hotel and a pilot comes into the breakfast hall wearing a wrinkled t-shirt, workout shorts, flip flops after just waking up or working out and sweaty (hair not combed etc.etc.) when nearly most everyone else (the locals) are wearing at least business casual or a suit. I don't want to wear that either, but at least make an effort to look like you belong in a 5-star hotel. I once saw a pilot wearing a nasty old t-shirt, shorts and flip flops try to get into the business lounge. The staff stopped him initially. After joining our party, he complained that the staff was racist. Unhappy Then they ignored him and wouldn't serve him. He just didn't get it. We are our own worst enemies.
Nothing says 5 star like the Narita Hilton….
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Old 12-24-2022, 08:59 AM
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Nothing says 5 star like the Narita Hilton….
ha! So true. Nobody in the hotels care what we look like. “5 star hotel” or not.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:43 AM
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I was about to say, what 5 star hotels? we have the worst hotel language in the industry. ACMIs stay at nicer places 9/10 times.
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Old 12-24-2022, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dckozak View Post
Check the vendors website. Do it before the end of the year and spend the companies coin on your remaining uniform allowance. Ask your flight manager how to get the Fedex emblem. After the contact is settled, give it to your kid to dress up for the next Halloween.
There are no approved vendor hats and no emblems as they are no longer part of the uniform.
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