HDdrivr

So instead of lanyards that are not effective, or billboards only the Memphis population reads let’s take the Delta approach in some form…
Since NONE of us wear hats hardly any wear Blazers , and prob less than 70% actually wear company coats, let’s try something like NO TIES, no Epaulets, or even more creative casual Friday - Sunday dress , wear the shirt with Jeans. They cant suspend all of us.

And IMO we should be wearing Khakis ( or something ) with a polo except for intl guys even with out contract negotiations.

Or do what my kids do wear our PJ to work day. JK kinda.

Or the union could buy us ties for each month. Jan = New Years tie, Feb = Valentine day
March= St pat day tie … you get the point!

Or all of us wear Black ties , mourning the death of our contact.


There are A LOT smarter people than me that have better suggestions cheer me up while I Sit RA over X mas

Myfingershurt

I’ve never understood why they make you guys were uniforms anyway. Do boxes really care how their pilots look? Seems like passive aggression by management.

appDude

I try to not be the uniform police, as I wear a US flag tie almost every day of the year. (If not Christmas or save the tatas month)
But my one pet peeve is have some self respect when checking into or out of a hotel (particularly international).
As in, if you normally wear you tie open and pulled down to your navel, maybe just those three minutes checking in or out of a hotel have some self respect and pull your tie up.

That being said,
I kind of like the idea of no ties at all.
Or some variations of that.

Anthrax

self-respect=tie? because the hotel staff cares, right? no one cares, except pilots. uniforms are a way to show the world who you are, in a world that doesn’t care! you want self-respect, lose the gut, and fight for what you’re worth!

I say we stop shaving our upper lip’s until we get a new contract, ladies included. that’ll show ‘em.

Merle Haggard

Phone holster looks better with a uniform.

PurpleToolBox

If you are an international pilot, then you understand. YES, wearing the uniform makes a big difference. In many countries and cultures, pilots are given a lot of respect and attention. In China, you CAN NOT get the duty officer exemption of not wearing the pilot uniform. Ask me how I know. In other words, you must be in uniform to operate the aircraft because China customs and rules.

I fought hard for relaxed clothing when deadheading in Business/First. Lost that battle. I fought hard for a relaxed shaving protocol. Lost that battle too. Our passenger airline partners require business casual when they deadhead; but we're expected to wear dress slacks and a dress shirt (full button down shirt) which is extra crap I have to carry in my bag.

My biggest pet peave is being in a 5-star international hotel and a pilot comes into the breakfast hall wearing a wrinkled t-shirt, workout shorts, flip flops after just waking up or working out and sweaty (hair not combed etc.etc.) when nearly most everyone else (the locals) are wearing at least business casual or a suit. I don't want to wear that either, but at least make an effort to look like you belong in a 5-star hotel. I once saw a pilot wearing a nasty old t-shirt, shorts and flip flops try to get into the business lounge. The staff stopped him initially. After joining our party, he complained that the staff was racist. Unhappy Then they ignored him and wouldn't serve him. He just didn't get it. We are our own worst enemies.

PurpleToolBox

[QUOTE=HDdrivr;3557599]So instead of lanyards that are not effective, /QUOTE]

I pushed hard for Yellow Vests that said, "CONTRACT NOW! WE EARNED IT" but ALPA leaders did not agree. Or there is a reason why we're prohibited from doing it. IDK.

FXLAX

Airlines do not require business casual for their dead headers. They require the same dress code as their paying passengers. I feel it’s ridiculous that we now have more strict dress code when the previous dress code was already more restrictive than the rest of the entire industry.

gatorhater

I’ve got two polo shirts in my bag right now. Can we start tomorrow?

dckozak

If you want to add credence to the (non pilot) executive leadership that you're worth less than a Delta pilot, then dressing like other work groups (that are paid significantly less) will surely make that point. How about going in a completely different direction, everyone wear the (hated) hat, in the crew room in front of your peers, in front of management. Flight management knows how loathed the hat is, can you imagine the optics and unspoken messaging that would be sent up the ranks if YOUR UNION requested everyone, in support of unity, put on such a despised part of your uniform. The messaging would be very clear, the company couldn't call it a work action, and the union could even call it out as a reinforcement of the professional standards of this profession. Compared to the lanyards that have typically been the union request (and notably ignored by some groups), you would be showing your fellow FDX pilots, who is on board and just how indignant you are about the current state.