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Rum Runner 04-14-2023 06:16 AM

Strike Vote!
 
Check your emails. Strike Vote opens on April 18th!

PurpleToolBox 04-14-2023 06:33 AM

Tell everyone you know to vote !!!

Text everyone from your bi class !!!

opt0712 04-14-2023 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by purpletoolbox (Post 3624062)
tell everyone you know to vote !!!

Text everyone from your bi class !!!

lfg!!! Fupm

StarClipper 04-14-2023 07:07 AM

Now that the company has exposed their hands on how they intend to utilize our lack of scope provision, I’m more in favor of reopening scope at this time. It makes absolutely no sense getting a contract with scope as it is. I’d rather wait.

BrianH 04-14-2023 07:27 AM

Let's take a good look at what has been going on:

Our NC has been receiving below industry leading offers from the company.

Our NC has not accepted a below expectation AIP like '15.

Our MEC has mostly spent our money wisely. Our Union is not broke like '15.

Our MEC is starting to listen to us after receiving massive emails, texts, and calls after the poorly written NC email a few Fridays ago.

Our Chair, was given the authority to call for the strike vote in resolution 23-08 in the following manor: "BE IT RESOLVED that the MEC Chair, in consultation with the Negotiating Committee and the Negotiating Support Team is authorized to initiate a Strike Authorization Vote by the membership."

Delta, United, AA, Hawaiian, others, have all recognized the value of their pilots.

We deliver several times more revenue per flight, air mile flown, per any metric you want to use than our passenger flying fellow pilots.

The time has been "now" for a long time.


We are here now and it is time to raise the bar, support the strike authorization vote, and except the hardships of attending our council meetings and get engaged.

Anything less will ensure an below industry leading TA.


It is your choice. And the time is NOW.


Let's not repeat '15.

Stand strong.

Engage.

And demand industry leading pay rates. Demand our pension be brought up to the IRS limits. And Demand an industry leading contract.

Hawk 285 04-14-2023 07:28 AM

Strike AUTHORIZATION vote, right? Different than a full up strike vote from what I understand. But definitely moving in the right direction…

StarClipper 04-14-2023 07:32 AM

Don’t get me wrong, I’m willing to do what it takes. I just don’t think it would be beneficial signing a contract without proper scope language. However, if the union puts a a strike vote, then so be it.

cargofast 04-14-2023 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Hawk 285 (Post 3624101)
Strike AUTHORIZATION vote, right? Different than a full up strike vote from what I understand.

No, same thing.

threeighteen 04-14-2023 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Hawk 285 (Post 3624101)
Strike AUTHORIZATION vote, right? Different than a full up strike vote from what I understand. But definitely moving in the right direction…

Same thing.

If we vote yes, the MEC chair can call for a strike at anytime once we are released from the NMB.

Rum Runner 04-14-2023 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3624173)
Same thing.

If we vote yes, the MEC chair can call for a strike at anytime once we are released from the NMB.

We will vote yes! It's the participation and yes vote percentages that matter now. It's time to put the Memphis sucks vs commuting sucks arguments aside for a while. Everyone who lives or is day turning Memphis, needs to be at the meeting on Tuesday. Everyone who can make the up coming picketing events, needs to be there!

threeighteen 04-14-2023 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Rum Runner (Post 3624181)
We will vote yes! It's the participation and yes vote percentages that matter now. It's time to put the Memphis sucks vs commuting sucks arguments aside for a while. Everyone who lives or is day turning Memphis, needs to be at the meeting on Tuesday. Everyone who can make the up coming picketing events, needs to be there!

You’re right, I think we can all agree that both memphis and commuting suck equally hard and we deserve to be compensated for our critical services that we provide to the world.

WearyEyed 04-14-2023 10:57 AM

It’s about time! I’m glad that the MEC Chair has finally acted. Seeing this bid and hearing the company’s plans has strengthened our resolve. Count me in. Voting YES to STRIKE!

Unless the currently TA’d section 1 has strengthened scope, then we need to make sure we don’t approve any future contract offers that don’t include STRONG SCOPE and NO CONCESSIONS.

Merle Haggard 04-14-2023 11:25 AM

Time to show Raj and DE Shaw that if they're willing to burn it down then so are we - and we'll do it first (before they've stolen all the money). Let's not sit here and be slowly bled to death. I'd rather start over somewhere else than go through that. I've seen it and been part of it before. It's not worth it.

It's past time to play hardball with these people.

Linepilot63 04-14-2023 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3624212)
Time to show Raj and DE Shaw that if they're willing to burn it down then so are we - and we'll do it first (before they've stolen all the money). Let's not sit here and be slowly bled to death. I'd rather start over somewhere else than go through that. I've seen it and been part of it before. It's not worth it.

It's past time to play hardball with these people.

This is how we get what we deserve. Anything less than that and I'll be bailing as well. Anyone on property here has the resume to go where they're valued. 12 months ago this was the hardest job out there to get.

SCOPE! NO CONCESSIONS!

C17B74 04-14-2023 01:10 PM

Amazing how things have changed so rapidly although everything seems rather cyclic as a majority if not all of the top tier largest employers enjoy their moments in the sun and fall back into the shade. Hopefully your time back in the sun comes soon and you enjoy the benefits of the work and effort these past years. May you bring everyone up on your path to success. We’re rooting for y’all.

PurpleToolBox 04-15-2023 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3624278)
Amazing how things have changed so rapidly although everything seems rather cyclic as a majority if not all of the top tier largest employers enjoy their moments in the sun and fall back into the shade. Hopefully your time back in the sun comes soon and you enjoy the benefits of the work and effort these past years. May you bring everyone up on your path to success. We’re rooting for y’all.

Appreciate your sentiments.

This has been a long time coming For many years the analyst have been pushing FedEx to consolidate networks because of the high costs. Now with FS moving on and ESG requirements, they have to.

CloudSailor 04-16-2023 01:07 PM

We have been ridden hard since 2015 and then put away wet by this new management team. They want to eat the whole cake and leave us nothing but crumbs. Our pilots - from those new on property to those who have been here for 25+ years - BUILT that fking cake!

Easiest Yes vote I can remember. Happy to give the MEC the ability to call a strike.

CloudSailor 04-16-2023 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3624212)
Time to show Raj and DE Shaw that if they're willing to burn it down then so are we - and we'll do it first (before they've stolen all the money). Let's not sit here and be slowly bled to death. I'd rather start over somewhere else than go through that. I've seen it and been part of it before. It's not worth it.

It's past time to play hardball with these people.

Well said brother. Spoken like the poet of the common man!

LuckyvsGood 04-16-2023 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Rum Runner (Post 3624053)
Check your emails. Strike Vote opens on April 18th!


there will never actually be a strike though. It’s just a formality, like ‘I’ll still respect you in the morning” “I would never treat you like that”. “ how do you know the baby is mine”. ​​​​​,

Hacker15e 04-16-2023 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by LuckyvsGood (Post 3625227)
there will never actually be a strike though. It’s just a formality, like ‘I’ll still respect you in the morning” “I would never treat you like that”. “ how do you know the baby is mine”. ​​​​​,

100% *not* the f'n point.

MD11HOG 04-17-2023 08:42 AM

[QUOTE=LuckyvsGood;3625227]there will never actually be a strike though. It’s just a formality, like ‘I’ll still respect you in the morning” “I would never treat you like that”. “ how do you know the baby is mine”. ​​​​​,[/QUOTN
Never say never. Be prepared.

Merle Haggard 04-18-2023 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by LuckyvsGood (Post 3625227)
there will never actually be a strike though. It’s just a formality, like ‘I’ll still respect you in the morning” “I would never treat you like that”. “ how do you know the baby is mine”. ​​​​​,

The administration owes organized labor a debt after what they did to the railroad union. You never know.

It's high time the union gets to work letting the administration know about the company's plans to move more jobs overseas. These aren't $20/hr factory floor positions either.

Whoopsmybad 04-20-2023 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3625961)
The administration owes organized labor a debt after what they did to the railroad union. You never know.

It's high time the union gets to work letting the administration know about the company's plans to move more jobs overseas. These aren't $20/hr factory floor positions either.

It’s funny that you think the admin owes a “debt” to anyone that’s labor. Both sides only care about donors.

I hope y’all hit the % you need to get a strong show. It helped us.

magic rat 05-01-2023 09:20 PM

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...t-negotiations

HIFLYR 05-08-2023 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3625961)
The administration owes organized labor a debt after what they did to the railroad union. You never know.

It's high time the union gets to work letting the administration know about the company's plans to move more jobs overseas. These aren't $20/hr factory floor positions either.

Yep and it’s getting close to elections!

BrianH 05-17-2023 05:36 AM

25 minutes until you strike authorization vote closes.

Hope we hear the results right away.

Merle Haggard 05-17-2023 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3637550)
25 minutes until you strike authorization vote closes.

Hope we hear the results right away.

I think that would be misplaying the hand.

If the results are strong, the NC chairman should quietly walk into the next negotiating session and show them to the company. Next, you give them a deadline to make a deal before you begin to distribute those results to FDX's biggest corporate customers.

More Tony Soprano and less Kim Kardashian.

opt0712 05-17-2023 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3637579)
I think that would be misplaying the hand.

If the results are strong, the NC chairman should quietly walk into the next negotiating session and show them to the company. Next, you give them a deadline to make a deal before you begin to distribute those results to FDX's biggest corporate customers.

More Tony Soprano and less Kim Kardashian.

This is the way.

BrianH 05-17-2023 07:29 AM

From the Chair:

Over 97% participated.

99% in favor.

Well done.

opt0712 05-17-2023 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by oncewasgood (Post 3637680)
I disagree. With that good of participation and support you blast it immediately, like they did. Especially going into negotiating dates next week. The media is already running with it.

Yea I just realized I didn't complete my post, before my kiddo grabbed the phone. The second sentence was going to be "Of course based on the strength of the results."

busdriver12 05-17-2023 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3637627)
From the Chair:

Over 97% participated.

99% in favor.

Well done.

That is epic. I wonder if there has ever been such a result and participation rate from any pilot group? I am proud that this group is ready to stand firm.

Rum Runner 05-17-2023 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3637627)
From the Chair:

Over 97% participated.

99% in favor.

Well done.

And may I now present to you, a unified pilot group!

What a resounding message.

ficone 05-17-2023 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3637710)
That is epic. I wonder if there has ever been such a result and participation rate from any pilot group? I am proud that this group is ready to stand firm.

I am also very glad to see a strong result.

However, I think SWA's vote was 98% participation, 99% approval.

bitwiser 05-17-2023 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by ficone (Post 3637741)
I am also very glad to see a strong result.

However, I think SWA's vote was 98% participation, 99% approval.

I think the stronger part of our vote was 81% participation within 12 hours. That's unreal! Glad to see it.

opt0712 05-17-2023 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3637710)
That is epic. I wonder if there has ever been such a result and participation rate from any pilot group? I am proud that this group is ready to stand firm.

You mean like SWAPA that had 99% in favor with 98% voting?

Pervis 05-17-2023 02:01 PM

Well done people.

Busman 05-17-2023 03:22 PM

That’s great doesn’t mean anything, under the rla china joe would have to agree and that will never happen, the RLA is absolutely corrupt and keeps airline employees powerless, the company knows this

NotOldNotYoung 05-17-2023 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Busman (Post 3637816)
That’s great doesn’t mean anything, under the rla china joe would have to agree and that will never happen, the RLA is absolutely corrupt and keeps airline employees powerless, the company knows this

so we can count you as one of the 1% who voted no. Seriously?

Linepilot63 05-17-2023 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Busman (Post 3637816)
That’s great doesn’t mean anything, under the rla china joe would have to agree and that will never happen, the RLA is absolutely corrupt and keeps airline employees powerless, the company knows this

An attitude of resignation isn't a good look.


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