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Nordhavn 07-24-2023 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Behnke (Post 3671673)
When they hear nothing but "the Scope changes are GOOD, not bad" and "reject this and there will be furloughs" and "these are industry-leading pay rates but you have to look at TOTAL compensation and don't mind our incorrect bar graphs", well then it kind of makes sense they are believing what they are being incessantly pelted with and voting accordingly. Maybe next go-around we throttle back on the fire-hose propaganda and just let the thing live or die on its merits.

After the last 3 years of propaganda you would think that folks who get paid to make informed decisions would be able to detect the BS a little better than this. This TA brought to you by ALPA. Industry leading is no different than safe and effective.

DLax85 07-24-2023 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3671677)
Everyone needs to remember how we got here. COVID caused a lot of isolation. The MEC needed to listen more. There needed to be more discussion and less transmission.

We need to thank everyone involved and understand the shortfalls of TA1.0. We now better understand what will be needed to achieve an industry leading contract with TA 2.0. We need to heal, and we need to listen to all side. It is time we get to work together and leave no one behind.

I am counting on every pilot who said they would help with TA 2.0 to roll up their sleeves and lend a hand. Everyone need to do a little. Together.

Yes - Listen to Understand. Not listen to just argue/refute.

Let’s Move Forward - Together - for Everyone,
DLax

Temocil27 07-24-2023 07:52 AM

Wonderful news to wake up to today. I’ve been vocal against 1.0 here and I’m willing to serve to bring us all a better 2.0. I look forward to comms from the union about how we can better align the NC agenda with the crew force agenda and I’ll be reaching out to my block rep (again) to ask about volunteering.

BrianH 07-24-2023 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Myfingershurt (Post 3671682)
with those voting results you’re prob more likely to get TA 1.1 vs TA 2.0. Really hope I’m wrong but that vote was way closer than it should’ve been.

Come join uas we can use the help making it better for all.

Merle Haggard 07-24-2023 08:32 AM

Let's start with a survey that offers ALL OF THE NEGOTIATING OPTIONS. The previous survey essentially forced pancakes and pension elimination as the only choices. Also, no to single pilot, no to outsourcing our jobs, and it's time for less SUB, not more. Oh yeah, industry leading pay rates actually means industry leading pay rates.

globalflair 07-24-2023 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Anthrax (Post 3671657)
And let me say: freaking finally a majority with the will to demand our worth.

I’m proud of you guys, teary-eyed proud!

now, off with their heads, every last one of them, and lets get to work.

So exactly how are you going to step up big guy?

pinseeker 07-24-2023 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 3671684)
Yes - Listen to Understand. Not listen to just argue/refute.

Let’s Move Forward - Together - for Everyone,
DLax


Though I ended up voting yes, I agree. It is time to come together. If we stay 57-43, we won't get the contract we want. Time to act as one.

Temocil27 07-24-2023 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by globalflair (Post 3671768)
So exactly how are you going to step up big guy?

I can’t speak for Anthrax, but I contacted my block rep during the voting period to see if I could start a conversation about why he felt so positively about this TA. He never responded to me. I’m going to email him back and ask how I can step up and help out going forward. Hopefully he responds to that one.

Nightflyer 07-24-2023 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 3671800)
I can’t speak for Anthrax, but I contacted my block rep during the voting period to see if I could start a conversation about why he felt so positively about this TA. He never responded to me. I’m going to email him back and ask how I can step up and help out going forward. Hopefully he responds to that one.

Start a recall on them. If they can't be bothered to answer your emails, you don't want them as your block rep.

TheBaron Deux 07-24-2023 10:06 AM

2871 “No” votes.
That’s the easy part. I sure never saw 2871 people at the picketing events. Maybe some of you will finally show up. We definitely need more than 10% if we are going to convince the company we are unified.


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