A seniority based system for open time is used by other carriers.

A seniority based system would not fix the amount of time it takes for open time requests to process. In order for it to be truly seniority based, there would have to be a window for submissions for the trips.

In my opinion, if we went to a real time trip trading system, there would have to be a phase in period of at least a year or two so that the pilots who have dropped trips and have a make-up bank have the oportunity to get those hours back. That would mean that in order to increase the value of your line, you must have hours in your make-up bank.

Maybe this is something for the next round of negotiations, but if you read the LEC 26 update, we are still on the focused track.

You do realize that you work in an industry that is seniority based, don't you. All of those senior pilots that you are complaining about had to endure the same things that you are eduring.

Senior guys are always looking for ways to make this job even worse, as long as it benefits them now that they’re senior.

How many pilots hired since 2015 have been forced to sit reserve for 5 years?

I've done the same and gotten beaten every time. Atomic clock, .5 seconds prior hit submit, and still get time stamped. I don't know if someone has a program that can beat it or maybe being in Memphis closer to the servers? Either way I don't even bother with open time release anymore. Not worth the hassle.

Do you not realize we’re about to experience that with DRIVE and Tricolor?

People at the end of the hiring wave are on their way there.

Then junior pilots need stop acting entitled and complaining to those who have had it far worse! You’re not there yet, hard times may come or may improve. (It’s not good now but buckle up if you think current situation is bad )

There is a subset of pilots with seniority #s around 600,000 to 1,000,000 who have had it far worse. Not your fault, but stop acting/complaining like this is a first for the seniority list. It’s not the senior pilots fault either.

The current situation can be avoided/reduced with a better contract with a retirement boost. (That is beneficial to junior pilots as well). Crazy contract demands will only make the pain last longer. Stop complaining and start working together for a better future. It’s not the senior pilots fault, it’s the executives/managements fault.

I think a good start would be just fixing the holes in the ship, if everyone had true equal and fair access that is a good place to go back to. It is ripe for other changes, in general, but eliminating the obvious and glaring special system that has run uncontested for many many years needs to stop. People in CRS are the real problem and that is obvious to anyone who has tried to pick up a trip now and then that says XTRA. Without the CRS collusion, this doesn't happen over and over again.

You do know there are hundreds of guys trying for the same trip so you and 99 guys got ETS. Also, got to look at PMU/PNP. I'm on the MD and I figure all fleets are the same, priorty is on every trip.

I think the only thing needing to be fixed is getting rid of CRS collusion and adding real time trip trading. Problem is, the guys hawking open time would still grab the great trips, but now you wouldn't even know they hit open time. No more PNP would be great.