Negotiations Finally
#42
#43
Attention new hires, you heard it from me first.
The TA passed by 50.1%. We voted to end the A-fund for you. We also reduced furlough protection by ending 4.A.2.fu, which protected you from the company and other pilots.
You're better off this way.
The TA passed by 50.1%. We voted to end the A-fund for you. We also reduced furlough protection by ending 4.A.2.fu, which protected you from the company and other pilots.
You're better off this way.
#44
We were? Is this something the braveheart 5 put on their telegram? What would we have gained by delaying? 3 more months of reduced pay for what?
#45
So why did they? Do you think they felt sorry for us?
Aircraft being parked for lack of crews. Schoolhouse isn't training any new students. Instructors were encouraged and are flying the line to keep planes filled during peak. Our manning is screwed up with people in the wrong seats. New 777s coming with no word on a bid.
We lost 11 junior pilots last month. How many more will we lose? They run the risk of retirements with a TA, losing people off the top and bottom.
They allowed the manning to get out of whack. But we gave them some hope with ending 4.A.2.
#46
Correct. A 50.1% yes on a concessionary contract.
How many times did we hear from the MEC Chair during the past few weeks that we have leverage during peak? Then the NC negotiated away 4.A.2.fu and a good chunk of our leverage. We were gaining momentum with airplanes not flying.
Trust me, this is going to be looked back at as the moment we shot ourselves in the foot.
How many times did we hear from the MEC Chair during the past few weeks that we have leverage during peak? Then the NC negotiated away 4.A.2.fu and a good chunk of our leverage. We were gaining momentum with airplanes not flying.
Trust me, this is going to be looked back at as the moment we shot ourselves in the foot.
The company could have exited any time they needed and built fat lines, thus making airplanes move with no problem. They could have done this all along. They've reached the point where they need to. Please explain where our leverage lies. Going in, coming out, hiring, etc are all unilateral company decisions. They were just punishing the audacity of a no vote on TA 1.
4a2c has never prevented a furlough but it certainly has cost the crew force millions of dollars - and more.
Apparently many fail to understand that 4a2c was a goodwill, "we're all on the same team" clause designed to deal with a 9-11 type scenario and preserve FDX for everyone. Instead we have been repeatedly backstabbed with it. That's it. Goodwill violated, goodwill clause gone.
Good freaking riddance.
#47
Banned
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,357
Likes: 133
Company can build lines up as high as they need to during peak without any influence on 4a2b. So they can cover flying, plus they can wet lease without penalty.
Getting rid of 4a2b was a good deal for the crew force. Company was saving over $5M a month off our backs.
If the five get their way they will drag things out, costing us $90M a month. What do we gain? They have no plan, 19 months with no bargaining or results. Expect more of the same.
Getting rid of 4a2b was a good deal for the crew force. Company was saving over $5M a month off our backs.
If the five get their way they will drag things out, costing us $90M a month. What do we gain? They have no plan, 19 months with no bargaining or results. Expect more of the same.
#49
Banned
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,357
Likes: 133
Contract 2015 did not drag out nearly as long as the current negotiations. So just think what they will say in the earnings call after we get a contract! Probably will have to reduce stock buybacks by $2B, but they save $5B in the last five years!
#50
So did the NC get any wording on furlough notices, recall rights etc? If not you’d think ALPA would have a template on minimum requirements for those scenarios…so the new green guys wouldn’t mess up.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post



