Single departure lines are perhaps the biggest difference from someone coming from a regional or even a major for that matter.

The MEM MD-11 and 777 bid packs have lines that consist of a single 12-13 day trip. You do one of those and you're done for be month.

Thank you for the explanations on that.

To be clear, if you hold a line that allows for dh to your trip, are you losing that time at home just the same as you would if you were a non-revving commuter getting to/from work?

You get paid full block for the scheduled DH from Mem to XYZ. If you are DHing to your home you get the hours sleeping in your own bed. If you live in DC and have a DH to EWR you leave when you can to get to EWR 8 or 12 hours before the operating leg. If you live in ABE and have a DH to LAX it may take you 8 block hours to get there but will only be compensated the 5 hours it would take to get from MEM to LAX. You have to check in when you are in position (100NM) to operate the first leg.

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Right you are, Ken!

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Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 2156358)

Thank you for the explanations on that.

To be clear, if you hold a line that allows for dh to your trip, are you losing that time at home just the same as you would if you were a non-revving commuter getting to/from work?

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Maybe a different way to say it is:
You get paid for the trip as if you flew it as scheduled, actually deadheading out of and/or into domicile. Nothing you do during a deviation affects the pay.

If you have a trip that starts with a DH to the city in which you live, you stay home until you need to depart in order to report at your local airport one hour prior to the revenue flight. If that is 15 hours after the trip technically started, then you get 15 extra hours at home while you’re already “on the clock”. It’s not a normal practice to have a trip built with a DH right into a revenue leg in the same duty period. So, there is usually a legal layover between the deadhead arrival and the outbound duty period.

If you have a trip that starts with a DH to another city, then you do whatever is necessary to be in that city no less than 8-12 hours prior to report for the outbound revenue flight (18 hours for intercontinental DH). Depending on the circumstances, you may have to leave earlier than when the trip technically begins, or you may capture some extra time at home. Either way, the pay starts when the trip begins on paper. I think most guys leave themselves some backup flights as they would for a normal commute. The nice thing is there isn’t the threat of a last minute bump off the jumpseat since you have a ticket.

Fedex is hand-picking folks for the MD11. With carrier or heavy experience. You won't have a choice but to decline and risk picking from what's available the next day because the MD11 guys class up a day before.


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Have you heard anything yet? They wait until two weeks before class date start to notify you.


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I got an invite to the class on the 26th because they had someone drop out. As far as I know, the rest of the guys I interviewed with are still waiting for a class date. I got the call about a month out, so other guys in the class must have had even more notice than that.

Adler and FDXLAG, thank you, that definitely helps me understand your system better, though to be honest, I don't think I correctly posed the question that I was curious about based on your responses involving pay/compensation/required lay-over rest for this system, etc. (though it's definitely interesting intel).

What I should have asked was: Do the scheduled dh's affect the number of scheduled days off per month compared to a guy who doesn't have to do any commuting at all?

If you have to be in position 8-12 hours or whatever prior to your operating leg, my reading of this is that you are losing days off/time off at home just the same as a typical pax carrier guy would who is commuting in for his trip, but the upside with the FX system is that you're not sweating it out hoping for a free seat on board your commuting flight.

Am I in the ballpark now?:D

I've been in the airline biz for about a decade now, but I've only just started flying for the airlines, and I live in base, so the in's and out's of commuting in general are purely academic to me. I swear I'm not actually mildly retarded. ;) Thanks for indulging my curiosity.