Originally Posted by Woodro (Post 1805004)

I found the LOA on the internet for CGN. Can some one clarify the housing allowance. It states "a minimum of $3,500 per month". This means to me if your rent is less then $3,500 you keep the difference. Would like to hear from someone who has lived there if possible.

Also while in CGN, do you get the $7 per/hr International Override pay?

Originally Posted by max8222 (Post 1806027)

Delaying hiring with hopes that we lay down and accept their best in industry retirement plan and screw the new hires! If the hire now they would be under current contract and retirement.

Originally Posted by Sometimes (Post 1809996)

200 pilots in 2015; doubtful.



In summery, they only intend to hire (at best) 32 pilots between now and the end of June, and therefore they would need to hire an additional 168 pilots during the July-December timeframe to achieve 200 in 2015. That's 28 pilots a month and isn't likely, namely for 2 reasons:
1) FedEx has a max training capacity of 16 crews per month
2) FedEx isn't keen on large training during November-Decmeber
Anything is possible. FedEx 'can' run FO/FO training and they 'can' hire every month. ?

Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r (Post 1810071)

While I agree with your assessment, do not think for a minute that the 16 month capacity is a limitation.

If FedEx needs to Hire (your 168#'s) before next Peak, they will.
They can easily train off site if need be,as they have done multiple times in the past 23 years during hiring booms. many of us trained offsite in ATL, PIT, MIA, DFW and HEL & ZRH.

Again, I agree with your assessment. But should the need arise, FDX can train a lot of folks.

That said, Big Hiring rumors are always the
perfect distraction during Negotiations. Don't believe it until it is on the ramp painted Purple/orange.

Originally Posted by Sometimes (Post 1809996)

200 pilots in 2015; doubtful.

FedEx has submitted, in writing, that they only intend to hire for FDA's during the next 6 months (through June), with the exception of their internals (there are 14). Currently, there are 18 FDA openings (HKG) that FedEx intends to fill during the next few months. In order to achieve this, FedEx must first interview and hire more candidates into the pool. As it stands, none of the current pilots in the pool accepted HKG; they all bypassed.

Note: When including the internals, there are 21 pilots (error +/-2) in the pool.


It is 'possible' FedEx will ALSO hire into their CGN FDA, but this is pure speculation. No official offers have been made for CGN, and even if vacancies are created I would not expect to see many (perhaps 10 at best).

I do not expect FedEx will hire 200 pilots in 2015 unless their current plan changes dramatically. They have explicitly stated only internals will be provided domestic base opportunities through June. If this remains true, below would be the best case scenario:

- All 14 internals start class on or before June.

- 18 additional pilots interview, are hired, and accept HKG on or before June

In summery, they only intend to hire (at best) 32 pilots between now and the end of June, and therefore they would need to hire an additional 168 pilots during the July-December timeframe to achieve 200 in 2015. That's 28 pilots a month and isn't likely, namely for 2 reasons:

1) FedEx has a max training capacity of 16 crews per month
2) FedEx isn't keen on large training during November-Decmeber

Anything is possible. FedEx 'can' run FO/FO training and they 'can' hire every month. They may even hire a few into CGN. Be that as it may, when you look at what has been officially announced and what has historically occurred, it isn't likely.

...but this is aviation. Everything is always in flux.

PS - What revision are we on?