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RMFedex 04-07-2015 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by Viper446 (Post 1857203)
I think your question should be, How is United going to be at the bottom of the FedEx seniority list after the merger. TNT? That's a new one. Merger? Never heard that one. Rumors, speculation, gossip, Yep, heard that here a lot with no substance.

Finger on the pulse of this operation?

Sluggo_63 04-07-2015 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by RMFedex (Post 1857207)
Elbow on the pulse of this operation?

FIFY......

maxjet 04-07-2015 04:23 AM

FedEx to buy TNT for $4.8 billion to expand Europe deliveries | Reuters

FDXLAG 04-07-2015 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 1857193)
I would imagine TNT will be kept separate but just owned by FedEx. Now as far as scope, Only the FedEx pilots can chime in on that.

Per the company announcement to pilots, we can't own a foreign airline. TNT airline will be sold off eventually. All inter continental flown by FDX pilots (as much as feasible), CGN hub to expand, TNT airlines to be sold off someday.

If you believe the company.

Doogs 04-07-2015 09:16 AM

Should throw some fuel on any scope negotiations.

RedeyeAV8r 04-07-2015 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1857243)
Per the company announcement to pilots, we can't own a foreign airline. TNT airline will be sold off eventually. All inter continental flown by FDX pilots (as much as feasible), CGN hub to expand, TNT airlines to be sold off someday.

If you believe the company.


I am just a simple Frozen Caveman Pilot. This new Merger announcement & Talk frightens me. ;)

So many questions.

"If " this deal gets final approval:

Who and what entity is going to fly the former TNT Airlines Freight? FDX says that they cannot own a foreign airline so they plan to sell it off. To Whom? Emirates? DHL? UPS? Air Asia?

Does it make sense to for FDX to sell off the TNT Air Arm to a Competitor? So will the Foreign buyer, whoever it may be, continue to fly the same Airplanes and routes under a contract for FedEx? Would that benefit the FDX Pilots? If FDX routes grow then yes, but what happens if it is more economical for the Sold Air Entity to fly it?

Is it going to be flown by the purchaser of the TNT Airlines with the current 737's and it's pilots or will they expand to bigger Aircraft?
BTW, TNT is not just 737's intra Europe. I see a lot of Wide Body Airplanes around the Globe with TNT painted on the side. (B-757/6's, A-330's, 747's etc) Who owns these? Will they continue to fly their existing Freight? Will they expand or contract if this deal is approved?

The FDX CGN HUB is expected to expand, but with what and who's airframes and Pilots? FDX's or the Purchaser of TNT airlines or a combination?

While this is all important, do not become distracted from Contract talks. I suspect Section 1 talks are is going to get more attention now.

MD11FLYER 04-07-2015 12:42 PM

I heard 17 being hired for HKG and 6 for CGN....not sure why we aren't at least putting guys in a pool...... Pilot recruitment folks seem a tad frustrated

Spoilers 04-07-2015 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by MD11FLYER (Post 1857490)
I heard 17 being hired for HKG and 6 for CGN....not sure why we aren't at least putting guys in a pool...... Pilot recruitment folks seem a tad frustrated

Tell recruitment to call me! I'll go to CGN right away. :D

Birdstrikes 04-07-2015 01:02 PM

From Wikipedia so I'm not sure how accurate the info is. Most of the aircraft are operated by subcontractors so shedding the aircraft should be relatively straightforward. The 3 B777F's are owned by Titan Leasing (Atlas Worldwide subsidiary) and leased back to TNT.

TNT Airways fleet
Aircraft In Service Orders Notes
BAe 146-300QT 7 — 2 operated by PAN Air
Boeing 737-300F 8 — 2 operated by Bluebird Cargo
Boeing 737-400F 9 3 1 operated by Bluebird Cargo
Boeing 747-400ERF 4 — 2 wet-leased from Emirates
Boeing 757-200F 4 — 2 operated by Icelandair, 1 operated by Cygnus Air
Boeing 777F 3 —
Tupolev Tu-204-120C 1 — Operated by Cairo Aviation
Total 32. 3

I'm not sure if TNT has any of their own pilots? Since most of the flying is subcontracted out FDX should simply be able to buy their way out of any remaining contracts. There is always an "early out" clause in ACMI flying that TNT is currently using.

Jetjok 04-07-2015 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r (Post 1857443)
I am just a simple Frozen Caveman Pilot. This new Merger announcement & Talk frightens me. ;)

Relax Francis, it's FedEx. Someone once advised me to not panic or become frightened too early. They said that there would be time for that later. Another really smart person told me that it doesn't make much sense to worry too much about things that you can't control. In my experience, I have found that both suggestions were spot on. Lots of hoops to jump through before any deal is done. Then governments have to get involved, including, I believe the European Union. Can't see this thing coming together before June or July. 2025.;)


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