FDX - No negotiations update?
 

The union and company met last week and we still haven't heard how it went. Quiet = good or bad??? Anybody heard anything from the crew bus drivers or other reliable sources?

Reliability Undetermined....

Heard today that Mediator requested additional sessions ASAP since they are close to the end game. Also, that Mr. Smith is wanting this wrapped up shortly to move on to dealing with the large number of issues away from negotiations. Many of which require support from the Pilot Group to resolve.

Again, strictly rumor, attached to reliable sources. For what that is worth?

I fixed it for you:


The longer it takes the more the company will have to pony up to satisfy this guy!!

I heard in the school house that the NC is under a gag order.

He also confirmed the additional days of meetings this week, at the request of the NMB.

Seems like if the quarterly profits are as expected, it is way past time for the company to show us the money.

I wish I shared the optimism. I'm foreseeing email updates six months from now that say 'We're in the red zone...time for the company to bring money to the table...'

I heard in the schoolhouse that the reason for the extra days requested by the nmb last week were because the head nmb guy has vacation in July.

I hope S.L. asks the head NMB guy to sell back that July vacation since the NMB is obviously undermanned like FDX and won't hire like FDX...see how he likes it!

Took a pretty large loss in the 4th qtr

Yes $895 million after taking a "loss" of $2.2 billion on paper for employee pensions. Fuzzy math, and over $4 billion cash for TNT. I am ready now!

I've been at FDX almost 20 years. The ONLY time we've EVER lost money is during pilot contract negotiations!*? They think we're stupid :(

Maybe they think the NMB guy is stupid also?


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There's a new message out.

Fellow FedEx Pilots,

The Negotiating Committee has completed the bargaining sessions scheduled for this week. Management provided a comprehensive proposal which included compensation. The MEC will be receiving a full briefing later this week. Following a review of the company's proposal, we will be preparing our response/counter. Please look for an update once the MEC has received its briefing.

Now that the company has included hourly rates, we should be able to figure out if the package proposed by the company is a turd or not. Not optimistic, hope I'm wrong.

"The Turd On Time"

(on time meaning 5 years late)

15% or I'm out.

Pipe

I'm putting Pipe in the inevitable 32% NO category.

Pipe. Is that 15% the first year? I hope so :rolleyes:

This place is so predictable! Right after the MOAB is closed the company walks into negotiations and finally throws the money (I'm predicting not enough) on the table!

I can see a large group sitting at home with their spouse already calculating. Honey look, with my Capt upgrade and a mere 8% pay raise, we can afford XYZ and we can send the kids to that private school now!

I say, if there are any concessions, I don't care how much money they throw at us - it is still a NO vote from me!

15% are you serious? That won't put you anywhere near an industry leading payrate

15% immediately is the floor. There are about a thousand other considerations regarding work rules, scheduling, etc.

Pipe

That's fine if you want to portray it that way. If we get a 68% yes vote, it's probably pretty good. 51% yes is what I don't want to see.

Pipe

You guys are funny....15 percent. We will be lucky if they threw 5% for the first year across the table.

True, although I expected free IPAD Air 2 along with a TA.

Can we add in some/many productivity and efficiency improvements for the company?

I don't feel like I am working enough days per month here

[scarcasm off]

THIS!

And yeah, I must add "I'm not nearly tired enough either....."

Nope, but they may let you keep your company issued IPAD 4 when they issue the new Surface tablet! :rolleyes:

Ipad Air 2 is coming in the fall.

Maintenance gets our old ones. No option for you to buy it.

Rumor from the school house.

FedEx employs over 4000 maintainers? And if you lose one right now, how much does it cost you to get a new one from the company?

........and guys will vote "yes" for it......:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I think you guys deserve 20% on signing, full retro pay and 5% every year until a new contract is signed. In that way, your company would gain nothing from stalling another contract.

All well and good, if you can threaten to strike if you don't get the company to agree. The national politics of labor relations seems to preclude the option of going all the way to lock out/strike. Since labor is (usually) the only one diminished by stalling on new T&C's, managements are happy to sit on their hands as the NMB forces both sides to endless negotiate under the pretense that there is still hope to find common ground.

The true way to find common ground is to allow both sides the ability to take the process to the abyss.

Should be minimum 3%/yr x 5 years. That's a 15% jump now and and 3%/ yr going forward. That's on everything, hourly rates, retirement, per-diem, health care benefits, etc. All that is just inflation plus a very very modest increase.

History says.....
 

FDX mgmt has never offered a TA that was an industry leading contract at the time of offering/signing.

By working backside of clock (reduced life expectancy), carrying lithium batts across the Globe, company netting Billions/yr, pilots deserve an industry leading CBA.

History dictates mgmt has never offered industry leading contract because FDX pilots NC continually accepts lower and membership votes to approve a lessor deal.

If you're expecting a TA that puts you on top, it's not going to happen.

We need to be released from the RLA and governed by the NLRA. When a contract expires it should expire.

Dude, Seriously? Do you have any self worth and for the profession? 15%?? Wow!

Hope you are a very small minority.

Cool a 5 year bridge contract.

Dude, seriously? You would vote down 15% across the board, hourly, retirement, medical and the rest. 3% annual increase going forward guaranteed across the board. Good luck with that.

Or stated another way: A cost of living adjustment and Status Quo. Some guys will never get it. :mad::(

3% a year? That's just to keep up with inflation. Dude, seriously?

Amen Commando!
A whopping COLA "raise" with our stock at an all time high, insufficient pilots to man peak without lots of voluntary extra flying, the loss of good will with our 2yrs of good faith extensions, the pax carriers coming out of bankruptcy with big hourly rate numbers (and TAs done early).....you gotta have huge self esteem issues if you think we're only worth 15% right now,
NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!

Yes, I would vote that down.