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USMCFDX 09-02-2015 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by MalteseX (Post 1962502)
Yes. I agree. I can handle it more if they just answer the question honestly. Such as we failed to get this. It wasn't worth the fight. The company dug in too hard. We didn't think it was important enough. We needed to work on other things. This was a compromise because the company wouldn't budge etc.

The NC answered many of the question on the call in today with your proposed answers.

trigg41 09-02-2015 11:49 AM

The look and feel of this whole thing smells fishy. Not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling.

MalteseX 09-02-2015 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 1962523)
The NC answered many of the question on the call in today with your proposed answers.


Thanks for the update. Wasn't able to get in on the call. That's good to hear though. Actually some of the Q&A on website is great. And others leave a lot to be desired. It seems different people are answering the questions. But thanks again for report on call.

iarapilot 09-02-2015 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by MalteseX (Post 1962502)
Yes. I agree. I can handle it more if they just answer the question honestly. Such as we failed to get this. It wasn't worth the fight. The company dug in too hard. We didn't think it was important enough. We needed to work on other things. This was a compromise because the company wouldn't budge etc.

Bottom line is that "political", evasive, or " appeasing " answers evoke a lack of trust. I WANT to trust our guys


FnA on that. Weaselly answers dont garnish my trust.

MX727 09-02-2015 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by repoman (Post 1961763)
I don't answer my own questions like you do with that little guy on your shoulder. I actually ask the Q&A site because its for Q and um um um A........

The answer is, currently, they could use a reserve to support a sim event without limitation. Therefore the answer is, how many R-days do you have. Reference: 4.I.9

So far, I haven't heard of them doing this, but they could. The new language seems to actually be much better than what we have now.

Also, anytime you are in the sim, it's going to be jeopardy, just like when you fly a trip. Reference: 11.O.7

Viper446 09-02-2015 04:38 PM

There are other posts that address this but the sim is voluntary.

kwri10s 09-02-2015 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by MalteseX (Post 1962471)
Example : Someone asked why there was no real time trip trading. The meat of the answer was " the main problem involved the initial release of open time and the volume of submissions." Then went on with an attempt at appeasing the person with the question.

My follow up question (from my journalism 101 days) would be "Then why do so many other airlines with greater pilots and flights have real time trip trading?"

The answer to this question from the union has chapped my butt for years. Any answer having to do with the open time release is just stupid. All that is needed is a tiered open. If they are worried about PMU, then PMU opens at 900 and then full open time opens at 905. With real time trading, it won't take 5 minutes, maybe 5 seconds.

The worse answer you will get if you press the union even harder about real time trip trade is a BS answer that comes from the company. The companies position is that if two people submit PMU at the same instant for the exact same trip, then one will not get the trip and the PMU will revert to MU because the computer can't figure it out. Of all the stupid answers. Just put a statement that if your PMU reverts you must notify scheduling to reset the MU to PMU.

I pressed this issue hard a few years ago and was told by the union negotiator that "according to the company expert", there are several hundred times a month that PMU is not awarded due to an earlier time stamp by another PMU. First, I completely doubt that PMU is outstamped ever outside of the initial open time release. Most pilots get PMU maybe once every couple years. The mere fact that the union did not go...What!! shakes my confidence in their ability to recognize untruths coming from company sources. Second, the very definition of real time means that there is really only a micro second after one person presses submit while the trade is processed. Unless you pressed submit at exactly the same instant, and it took the exact same micro time for your trades to travel, then someone will get trip not available. There will be no earlier time stamps, because the trip will be gone. Real time is just that real time. Heck, I'd even give up a rolling open time seniority window, 60 seconds per 100 seniority numbers if they are that concerned about the "flood" of inputs. At least I'd have absolute real time for the rest of the month outside the first couple minutes. That would beat the frustration of 10+ hours of open trade inquiries.

MalteseX 09-02-2015 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by kwri10s (Post 1962870)
The answer to this question from the union has chapped my butt for years. Any answer having to do with the open time release is just stupid. All that is needed is a tiered open. If they are worried about PMU, then PMU opens at 900 and then full open time opens at 905. With real time trading, it won't take 5 minutes, maybe 5 seconds.

The worse answer you will get if you press the union even harder about real time trip trade is a BS answer that comes from the company. The companies position is that if two people submit PMU at the same instant for the exact same trip, then one will not get the trip and the PMU will revert to MU because the computer can't figure it out. Of all the stupid answers. Just put a statement that if your PMU reverts you must notify scheduling to reset the MU to PMU.

I pressed this issue hard a few years ago and was told by the union negotiator that "according to the company expert", there are several hundred times a month that PMU is not awarded due to an earlier time stamp by another PMU. First, I completely doubt that PMU is outstamped ever outside of the initial open time release. Most pilots get PMU maybe once every couple years. The mere fact that the union did not go...What!! shakes my confidence in their ability to recognize untruths coming from company sources.................. There will be no earlier time stamps, because the trip will be gone. Real time is just that real time. Heck, I'd even give up a rolling open time seniority window, 60 seconds per 100 seniority numbers if they are that concerned about the "flood" of inputs. At least I'd have absolute real time for the rest of the month outside the first couple minutes. That would beat the frustration of 10+ hours of open trade inquiries.

Exactly. This comes from FedEx --- our company---- the same company that can track REAL-TIME 800 KAZILLION packages sent from Bum--**** Egypt to ANYWHERE thru the planet and being accessed by millions of customers. And we can't come up with a system that processes 4200 pilots trading a few hundred trips. 👎

Laughing_Jakal 09-02-2015 07:37 PM

bump and flush
 
I also remember when they claimed they couldn't process an excess and vacancy bid at the same time, the computer couldn't handle it.....Thus going through the painful process of excess only to then put out a vacancy......but now suddenly they can do a "Stand-in bid...."

but we spent a lot of negotiating capital on using reserves for sims.......I was amazed where a lot of capital went. My eyes glazed over on the training section

TheBaron Deux 09-02-2015 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKts (Post 1961740)
The ALPA Q&A website is there to answer question but also is biased towards a yes vote. The MEC passed the TA on to us and has also told the 4 MEC dissenting voters that they are not invited to the road shows. You can only assume they want this to pass!

Wow! I'm gad you're here to set us all straight. So I should ignore the email I received from my "No" voting LEC chairman about him being at our roadshow and explaining to us why he voted NO. I never trusted that guy. While I have your attention oh great seer, what is the stock market (BP Plc in particular) going to do on Monday.


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