Cowbell

We have been here about the same amount of time. Like you I haven't flown extra, supported negotiations any way possible, and taken big hit financial over the last couple of years as others have take draft trips I turned down. I am voting yes because I think this TA is pretty good in a lot of areas and will not get any better by waiting two years for 2.0. I think voting yes is best for me and best for the group. It is possible Albie feels the same way. If everyone makes the decision on whether to support this TA because it is better or worse for them short term and long term then by definition the vote will tell us what the majority believes is in the collective best interest of the Union. I can live with that.

 

Cowbell, there are also many captains that I have talked with, and many that have posted on here and Facebook, plus many more who will never post, some with 25+ years on property, who could be using the same quote above, but feel that money isn't everything we should be working towards, even though retirement is close for them. They, as apparently you do, have different priorities. There are many who could want this voted in, just to retire in two years with the extra SLB $, and not have to stay around for the decreased QOL that comes with the TA, but choose not to. They quote retirement, SLR, loose language, 4a2b not properly addressed, etc... And they are more tired of seeing our QOL go downhill (for way, way longer than I've been here) than they are tired of the RLA process.

I guess we will know when the voting closes. But don't despair yet.

Until then, "more cowbell!!!". Great avatar.

 

Welcome to APC. If your deductive ability is best exemplified by your confusing an internet site with an airplane cockpit you'll probably find yourself fitting right in here.

 

Cowbell, your vote is based on your assumption that you know what is best for our group as a whole. I believe you are wrong. Which one of us is correct?

 

Oh please. Are you even a FedEx pilot, with a big two posts behind your belt? If so, what are the odds that you're a current poster, just starting with a different account, in order to attack someone?

If you have actually read any more posts than you have made, you would notice that Rock is one of more fair minded, reasonable posters, whether one agrees with his position or not. But at some point, when attacked enough, anyone can get angry and defensive.

If you are trying to prevent people from being rude and snarky, I commend you. However, you need to keep reading, because you have a long ways to go. There are many comments on this forum that are far more offensive. However, perhaps you are just calling out someone that has a different opinion on the TA than you?

 

All that "group as a whole" stuff went away in 2007 with the Age 65 endorsement (the unanimous one) by the MEC.

It's all whose ox is getting gored, now. Funny thing is, several of the ones that signed that document are the ones telling us to vote "no" now......

 

Cowbell, I think that you mistake someone's personal analysis of this TA as selfishness, and it's not. Everyone is analyzing this (no doubt, including you) as to how it will affect them, because it is something they can understand, and something they can quantify. By explaining how it affects them, it is giving an example, information to others who might be in the same situation. Albie has been asked a number of times to give his opinion.

For me personally, what matters is QOL. If this drags out another year, it costs me $30K in raises, two years, it costs me $69K. Would that ever be made up? It is a balance of whether my distrust of what how the company will interpret this TA outweighs the price of waiting, and if I think the issues I'm concerned about would even be fixed by continuing to negotiate. Add in the assessment that the union will have to add for negotiating further, since apparently we're out of $$, and you're talking some serious bucks, and I don't think weighing if it is worth it to wait is selfish at all. People are doing their own analysis, and their own critical thinking.

I appreciate people's honesty, and don't think daggers should be thrown at them for that.

 

I've been interested in how often Rock and Busdriver12 tagteam and seem to be awake at the same times.

In this case, three minutes apart.

And I perceive other nom de plumes also.

And some of the other hokey stories from various and sundry.

 

You should report us immediately to the moderators of this forum. I'm pretty sure they can tell if someone is posting under more than one name.

 

No. They can't.

Just use different emails to set up individual accounts.

You lost any credibility to comment on this TA.

Absolutely elementary.

School us no more.