The mindset that will get us nowhere
10-18-2015, 06:19 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Viper446
Rock, YGTBSM, Fund our own retirement and you are okay with that? Geez, I get saving but we have a contract that is supposed to have a retirement. We are asking for just a fing cola to the pension. You know what Rock, I am going to change my vote to yes. I want to see guys like you choke on the new work rules. I want to see guys like you retire and walk out the door while you have screwed your buds in the past.
And Rock, we currently fund our own retirement with a 401K. I put the max every year into it. I put close to 30K a year into retirement. You seem to keep missing the point. This TA isn't about money. Its about a fix to make our retirement have the same value now, that it will have in the future. Our retirement should have a simple COLA. Is it that hard to understand? Maybe you are right. We make too much. We shouldn't have what we have fought for or earned.
And Rock, we currently fund our own retirement with a 401K. I put the max every year into it. I put close to 30K a year into retirement. You seem to keep missing the point. This TA isn't about money. Its about a fix to make our retirement have the same value now, that it will have in the future. Our retirement should have a simple COLA. Is it that hard to understand? Maybe you are right. We make too much. We shouldn't have what we have fought for or earned.
10-18-2015, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock
You are the smartest person on the planet. Or at least this thread.
I married very well. Not going to trade this one in, ever.
10-18-2015, 06:27 PM
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Personal attack? Rock has been posing on here for days. You don't agree with my post? Get off of APC if you don't like the comments. You need thicker skin if you are going to read stuff here. Try Delta and United forums. Its the same stuff. You want my intials, ss, give me yours. Fine, if you aren't smart enough of figure out that this place is just opinion veiled behind animosity, you are a fool.
10-18-2015, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock
Yes. Although neither amount to anything even close to what we get, although I'd say she works harder than I do.
Remove all of the extra she provides from your monthly income and retirement planning and tell me how well off you are. Some of us have wives that don't work or can't work outside of the home!
10-18-2015, 06:40 PM
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Not to ruin the mood, but now might be the time for a group hug.
Just sayin....in a couple of days, we need to all be speaking with one voice. If the TA is voted in, we need to ensure it isn't interpreted in a way that hurts us, due to fuzzy contractual language. If it is voted down, then we should listen to good old Ben Franklin, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Just sayin....in a couple of days, we need to all be speaking with one voice. If the TA is voted in, we need to ensure it isn't interpreted in a way that hurts us, due to fuzzy contractual language. If it is voted down, then we should listen to good old Ben Franklin, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
10-18-2015, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
Not to ruin the mood, but now might be the time for a group hug.
Just sayin....in a couple of days, we need to all be speaking with one voice. If the TA is voted in, we need to ensure it isn't interpreted in a way that hurts us, due to fuzzy contractual language. If it is voted down, then we should listen to good old Ben Franklin, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
Just sayin....in a couple of days, we need to all be speaking with one voice. If the TA is voted in, we need to ensure it isn't interpreted in a way that hurts us, due to fuzzy contractual language. If it is voted down, then we should listen to good old Ben Franklin, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately."
10-18-2015, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
If it is voted in the company will interpret it any way they damn well please and there is very little any of us can do about it! That is why the contract language is so important.
However, I believe at this point we aren't going to change anyone's mind. And if it does get voted in, we need to not accept, "This is our interpretation of this area," while doing nothing. We need to call attention, grieve, call the union---sounds hopeless, but when enough people make noise, it's got to help.
10-18-2015, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
Remove all of the extra she provides from your monthly income and retirement planning and tell me how well off you are. Some of us have wives that don't work or can't work outside of the home!
10-18-2015, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11HOG
"Invest a little of your off time and figure out how manage your own retirement. You will be stunned at what you can accomplish with the salary we make." Rock for lead negotiator.. for the Company
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