Again, if times have changed why are we confirming so many more orders? Why not start moving toward more contract air- on a level higher than a few extended wet lease routes. We've also extended how long the MD's will be around, specifically the -11. Right now I possibly could retire in the -11, and I've only been here 5 yrs.

I hope you do soon buddy...

I've been wondering how I haven't seen you since you returned. Granted, I avoid night flying as much as possible (and am reasonably successful) but still surprised we haven't bumped into each other on ONE night hub turn in AOC. Hope we do.

Good points - have to admit though I haven't seen anything about extending MD11s in writing and confirmations mean nothing till the cash has changed hands...I think.

I don't think anyone who has worked in ACMI believes that our system could be run with massive amounts of outsourcing. It's a different world. On-time performance is not a priority.....

I've been reasonably successful at avoiding MEM, which is a priority for me :). When I do go through there, it is ALWAYS at night. We live in 2 somewhat different airlines bud.

As far as retiring on the MD-11, it would be great to see it stay around for much longer. We just ran into a crew that was headed to the desert to bring one out of mothballs. Not sure how many are coming back online, but with cheap fuel, I imagine options are on the table.

AOC, i.e. bus ride = Ego Mt. Olympus. Observed crew comments offered there-in; as witnessed by this reporter (seemingly peer acknowledged on their own merits from an even field)…solid citizens flying good airplanes.

Fredo… uh…legal recommendation; compulsory yoga training for all concerned.

Disclosure; I don’t do yoga.

FDX APC posting recommendation; know your audience.

…Bargain signed. Do your job, worry later, nobody gets a pass. Respect skill of delivery professionals, as customers do. Pak mail vendors also if it’s not too much a bother…

[QUOTE=METO Guido;2058986]AOC, i.e. bus ride = Ego Mt. Olympus. Observed crew comments offered there-in; as witnessed by this reporter (seemingly peer acknowledged on their own merits from an even field)…solid citizens flying good airplanes.

Fredo… uh…legal recommendation; compulsory yoga training for all concerned.

Time to stop drinking friend.

Ummmmm... What?

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Does anyone think that Fed Ex would ever just purchase Western Global for the planes and pilots?

I doubt it. The only acquisition FedEx has done was Flying Tigers and that was for the Tiger's routes.

Someday, in a faraway utopia, I will come to understand why everyone doesn't stop the FU*#&NG draft, all the time. Wouldn't it be great to just hire more pilots AND have a better contract -- easily achievable if people could just knock it the he!! off.

Pipe

:confused: Like it or not, the contract's done for a pretty long time. Are you saying you still don't want anyone to fly draft?

So what other parts of the contract don't you want pilots to exercise?

Dumb? Runs a little deeper than that I suspect.

So explain if you will brave Black Knight, in plain language for an admittedly slow learner, how exactly is FDX cheating its pilots?

My point is that in the long term, draft is good for individuals and the company. It is not, overall, the best thing for the pilot group. Now comes the period in between contracts where the addicts become addicts and the die gets cast for the next negotiation.

Pipe

A lot of guys didn't fly draft this last year. I know several guys who turned draft down and felt in, "doing the right thing", they were passing on money that would never come their way again. In my Anc base, there is very little draft available or even open time. I did get a couple of calls this summer, will that happen again, nope. A lot of guys feel they got screwed out by turning down money to give our Union leverage and now feel sold out by that same Union. You aren't going to get any agreement on not flying draft. Its part of our contract and a right of every pilot to use it as they can. Do you think pilots with seniority should not fly carryover and protect it because that reduces hiring further pilots?

I am one of these guys. No draft for over 3 years unless trip changed or extended now if I want to make some easy coin no reason not too.

Here's an idea...We should have a draft makeup bank. The hours for every draft trip you turn down gets put into the draft bank. Then, when those that individually chose not to take draft trips in the past, feel like they'd like to feed at the trough...CRS would have to call them and those with draft banks first.

Of course, Waldorf could use his draft bank to fill his DSA bank.:rolleyes:

A. Lighten up.

B. Explain in plain language for me and the rest here (notice I wasn't the only one confused). What were you trying to say in your OP/what's your point?

Well, because you asked ... I think we should have a monthly pay cap (maybe 85 hours?). Any pay over that amount should go into a "bank" that you could choose to drop future trips against.

That would cure the "Wolf-Pack 100 hour/month club" and require Management to properly staff the airline. Two problems solved with just one easy fix!*?

MM


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A - B man eh?

A. Waldorf saw through it…late binge rant after a 20 hr. roadie. Far less embarrassing than countless other L/O indiscretions I assure you. My apologies.

B. In what manner does FDX not live up to its CBA?

As much as people would like to put the Wolfpack out of business, I doubt many would support a socialistic system that limits them to making 300K/year. And while everyone loves seeing newhhires, people coming in at the bottom doesn't do a thing to help many pilots. It's people coming off the top that they need.

If it was just the "wolf-pack" flying 100 hours per month, we would have ramped up hiring long ago.

I think you solution would be better implemented if we ever enter 4A2B again. That would help in spreading the wealth, as was the original intent of 4A2B.

Agreed about the Wolf Pack. If what they're doing is within the bounds of the CBA (apparently questionable), they should be able to make as much $ as they can.

New-hires are due to either retirements, or growth, or both. Pilots arriving at the bottom of the seniority list DO help everyone.

Hey, I'm just grumpy because I'm stagnant. People falling off the top of the list, off the bottom, some new ones coming in, but my list has been shrinking. For an expanding bid pack, more people are good. Of course, as a matter of principle, newhhires are great, though I guarantee you most people don't desire salary caps in order to hire more pilots. I'd take a salary cap if it would get people to retire, though! Or prevent another 4a2b or a furlough.

A benefit/curse of being mid-to-senior. ;)

You'd be a little more senior if those 5-ish guys who told me they were retiring last year, had ACTUALLY retired. I bring it up when I see them. :)

They did some of this in the hated despised total sell out new contract.

Yes, please do! Tell em to hurry on up outta here!

Nothing worse than seeing retirement FCIF's when their all junior to you.

Yea Pipe, maybe one day the majority of our guys will understand what you are trying to say.

Some are p!ssed because they turned down draft while others picked it up. That is part of the deal....at least those turning it down did the right thing, IMO.

To me it is simple. No extra flying puts pressure on the Company. Big pressure. We have another month with AVA and voluntary vacation cancellation. Yes, no leverage.

If only we could give the Union the ability, like UPS, to say no extra.

Maybe that is a sign? :o:):D

I can think of one thing you can do so you never have to see that again:D