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Sluggo_63 05-11-2016 01:38 PM

What I found strange is that they are training 16-01 pilots before some 15-01 ones. Same seat/base.

PeterGriffin 05-11-2016 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 2127250)
What I found strange is that they are training 16-01 pilots before some 15-01 ones. Same seat/base.

I believe a lot of 75/76 folks are getting passed over, with passover, due to shortage in that seat...

Sluggo_63 05-11-2016 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by PeterGriffin (Post 2127266)
I believe a lot of 75/76 folks are getting passed over, with passover, due to shortage in that seat...

It's not that... there won't be any passover. It's different bids.

Look at the 757 letter.

01 AUG 2016 Training date
SF & BW were awarded M57C slots on 15-01
SM was awarded E57C slot on 15-01

20 JUN 2016 Training date
SM & TH were awarded M57C slots on 16-01
BR was awarded E57C slot on 16-01

Not that I care, but I always thought the training letters trained in order. All 15-01s would train before 16-01s. I guess not.

memhubturn 05-11-2016 03:33 PM

What does the $ symbol mean on the training letter? There is a key for & and % but not for $.

PeterGriffin 05-11-2016 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 2127307)
It's not that... there won't be any passover. It's different bids.

Look at the 757 letter.

01 AUG 2016 Training date
SF & BW were awarded M57C slots on 15-01
SM was awarded E57C slot on 15-01

20 JUN 2016 Training date
SM & TH were awarded M57C slots on 16-01
BR was awarded E57C slot on 16-01

Not that I care, but I always thought the training letters trained in order. All 15-01s would train before 16-01s. I guess not.


I'm probably not a good source to answer this, but, I do know on the airbus, there were some 75 captains that were awarded bus capt and their training dates were published as summer 2017 on bid 15 01 training letter. Those captains were senior to the most junior bus captain that will upgrade this summer on 15 01, thus, triggering passover for those folks. I guess they just filled in the training slots between now and next summer with 16 01 guys. Again, this is just what I noticed on the airbus.

FXDX 05-11-2016 06:13 PM

While in theory they should train 15-1 first, they will continue to train in any order they choose and then pay pass over if appropriate. It really sucks, because you can't even estimate when you will go to training before you bid. That's why bid for training is a huge gain in the new contract, or will be when it's actually implemented.

Wildmanny 05-11-2016 07:27 PM

Why we agree to anything implemented at a date other than date of signing is beyond me. Whatever. Spilled milk.

gcsass 05-11-2016 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Wildmanny (Post 2127486)
Why we agree to anything implemented at a date other than date of signing is beyond me. Whatever. Spilled milk.

You're just not being a team player! Get on board and come on in for the big win!

😬

ClutchCargo 05-12-2016 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by gcsass (Post 2127526)
You're just not being a team player! Get on board and come on in for the big win!



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hoya saxa 05-12-2016 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by ClutchCargo (Post 2127580)
It's the Jungian thing sir!



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