Passover pay doesn't account for difference in trip schedules, overrides, and grid penalties. Yes, you may be paying me passover pay, but I am definitely not making what I should be nor am I flying the schedules I want.

24.B.7. says that a system bid must be closed or canceled prior to the opening of another system bid.

This does not take "automation" (or programming) as defined in the contract. Why isn't it in effect at DOS for bid 16-01?

Anyone think there's a chance of winning a grievance on that?

They have up to May 2017 to complete Phase Four events. With the length of the training letters and another bid sure to come out Spring 2017, the old contract filling of vacancies is going to be around until 3-4 years into our stellar 6 year contract.

The previous bid was closed. Remember when the FCIF comes out and the verbiage says "the bid will close on xx/xx/xxxx"? Closed does not mean all training has been completed. That section means we can't have two open bids at the same time. They tried that once.

Grievance?
 

The bate and switch on the posting 16-01 is unacceptable. Some of the projected dates aren't even close. I heard a 757 capt, said the fcif said Spring 17 but he now starts next month.

We need to start a grievance with the union. I'm in if one starts.

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What FCIF? This happens EVERY time there is a bid. Somebody gets screwed by being trained out of seniority sequence with a last minute, summer time slot that totally destroys their vacation plans of that year. That is why bid for training was such a big deal for many and was one of the best gains we got in the current contract. Too bad it isn't in effect yet, but once that feature goes live, hopefully for the next huge bid, we will finally get to have some say as to when we actually go to training. Until, be prepared to go one week after the bid closes if you decide to bid a new seat. Good luck grieving that.