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Originally Posted by MeXC
(Post 2134931)
"You would have to come up with something that benefits both the old and young, so it is fair to both age groups. Don't screw the young to help the old, and don't do the reverse either."
Are we talking Age 65 or retirement? :)
Originally Posted by PeterGriffin
(Post 2134953)
That is a huge question. Right now, you can get your "high five" and coast til 25 years of service and retire with full A fund retirement. Plus, people like the option of retiring a little early (58, 59) with minimal impact to A fund retirement. What formula are they gonna use? Working your tail off to 65 with a higher B fund??
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 2134722)
This is a stand alone item. We're not in negotiations, we're not delaying raises or contract benefits. It will be easy for every single pilot to judge the merits of changing this. Why would we accept anything short of better than what we have? The company is prosperous, and there is no reason to accept anything except for improvements, so why would we do otherwise?
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Originally Posted by iarapilot
(Post 2135114)
Because we have many times in the past?
This one should be simple. Not sure even the best lawyers could sneak their way around this one. Hopefully not famous last words.....:eek: Theoretically I think they could work out a win/win situation. If not, we say no, and there is absolutely no reason to agree otherwise. Maybe I'm just too optimistic, but I hope the union does a decent job of keeping us in the loop. |
Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 2135127)
I know that's a perspective that many people have, however, those issues have been far more complicated, with different ways to interpret things, plenty of lawyerese wording, positives and negatives that go on forever.
This one should be simple. Not sure even the best lawyers could sneak their way around this one. Hopefully not famous last words.....:eek: Theoretically I think they could work out a win/win situation. If not, we say no, and there is absolutely no reason to agree otherwise. Maybe I'm just too optimistic, but I hope the union does a decent job of keeping us in the loop. You are optimistic. ;) And I am pessimistic. Now if things would average out. :rolleyes: |
Yeah, we can hope. Otherwise, why even bother.:rolleyes:
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You guys complain WAYYY too much for a pilot group who barely flies. You want to compare yourself to Delta? Then start flying the same schedule. A FedEx 76 Captain flies from MEM-TUS and has a 16 hour layover. A captain at Delta would fly ATL-MCO-ATL-SFO with the same layover, and they end up finishing their trip in ATL 3 days later. Seriously...you guys live the life of Ryan. Regardless of people or boxes, the job is the same.
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Originally Posted by PlaneFan82
(Post 2136364)
You guys complain WAYYY too much for a pilot group who barely flies. You want to compare yourself to Delta? Then start flying the same schedule. A FedEx 76 Captain flies from MEM-TUS and has a 16 hour layover. A captain at Delta would fly ATL-MCO-ATL-SFO with the same layover, and they end up finishing their trip in ATL 3 days later. Seriously...you guys live the life of Ryan. Regardless of people or boxes, the job is the same.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You might have a point. But when you have been doing the same kind of trips forever, there is always room for improvement. Just like contracts. |
Originally Posted by PlaneFan82
(Post 2136364)
You guys complain WAYYY too much for a pilot group who barely flies. You want to compare yourself to Delta? Then start flying the same schedule. A FedEx 76 Captain flies from MEM-TUS and has a 16 hour layover. A captain at Delta would fly ATL-MCO-ATL-SFO with the same layover, and they end up finishing their trip in ATL 3 days later. Seriously...you guys live the life of Ryan. Regardless of people or boxes, the job is the same. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 16 hour layover must be nice. Thanks for playing. . |
Originally Posted by PlaneFan82
(Post 2136364)
You guys complain WAYYY too much for a pilot group who barely flies....Seriously...you guys live the life of Ryan. Regardless of people or boxes, the job is the same.
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Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2136378)
App window is open. Come on down and get some of that free money.
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