DRL Upgrade
#21
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Joined APC: Feb 2023
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Reviving this older thread. I am trying to better understand DRL and it sounds fairly appealing.. Would it be common for the 3 captains to work 5 or 6 day rotations and in doing so the month is fully covered? Or would it be easier to have each just do a 10 day rotation? Also, what is the upgrade timeline looking like now? And is it something available to all pilots or is it only a select few who get to be part of DRL?
It's not hard, 3 captains, cover the left seat 100% of the time
If one is going home, another needs to be coming out, the same day
They don't care if you have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 day overlaps, but you have to have
a minimum of a 1 day overlap
Cover the left seat! Work whatever you want, 4 day rotation is minimum
Seniority, bid it, your seniority holds it, you get it
It's not ILC were you have to suck up to them to get "accepted"
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Family guy
Posts: 144
Who wants to do 10 days on the road? Good lord!
It's not hard, 3 captains, cover the left seat 100% of the time
If one is going home, another needs to be coming out, the same day
They don't care if you have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 day overlaps, but you have to have
a minimum of a 1 day overlap
Cover the left seat! Work whatever you want, 4 day rotation is minimum
Seniority, bid it, your seniority holds it, you get it
It's not ILC were you have to suck up to them to get "accepted"
It's not hard, 3 captains, cover the left seat 100% of the time
If one is going home, another needs to be coming out, the same day
They don't care if you have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 day overlaps, but you have to have
a minimum of a 1 day overlap
Cover the left seat! Work whatever you want, 4 day rotation is minimum
Seniority, bid it, your seniority holds it, you get it
It's not ILC were you have to suck up to them to get "accepted"
#23
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 288
And, I've been in the business over 30 years. I long ago lost any pride I may have once had. I can suck up with the best of them! 🤣
#24
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2024
Posts: 2
DRL?
I'm a 121 pilot coming up on age 65 and not ready to quit flying. I'm seriously interested in Flexjet.
Can someone please tell me what "DRL" refers to?
Also, how is it determined what aircraft a new hire is assigned to? Does the co. take into account what he or she has flown before; would someone coming from a Boeing background be more likely to get the Challenger as opposed to the Phenom? I have nothing against the smaller aircraft, just wondering.
Thank you.
Can someone please tell me what "DRL" refers to?
Also, how is it determined what aircraft a new hire is assigned to? Does the co. take into account what he or she has flown before; would someone coming from a Boeing background be more likely to get the Challenger as opposed to the Phenom? I have nothing against the smaller aircraft, just wondering.
Thank you.
#25
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2023
Posts: 6
"Domestic Red Label" are Praetor and Challenger PICs. A group of 3 PICs are assigned to one tail (mostly), and arrange their own schedules between themselves. New PICs happen by a periodic seniority bid.
So who isn't DRL? Phenom PICs, and SICs on Phenom/Praetor/Challenger, are assigned by the company according to their 8/6 or flexbid schedule. ILC ("International Large Cabin", the Gulfstreams / Globals) is its own entirely separate thing; people apply and are selected, without regard to seniority.
It's very opaque. The company asks for your preference, but they put us where they need us, and they don't explain the reason.
You don't find out your fleet until day 1 of DFW indoc, and even then caution you that it may change. I know at least half a dozen people who were assigned a type in indoc, then before ground school got moved to another because training slots opened up.
I know a few people who were already typed on the Phenom or Praetor, and they all got that aircraft, but it's not guaranteed. In any event, they still go through the same initial training as everyone else.
I didn't notice any obvious correlation between past experience and fleet assignment, except maybe a small tendency to put more-experienced jet drivers in the Praetor or Challenger (but there were certainly exceptions; I know at least 6 people in those fleets who had zero prior jet time).
Embrace flexibility.
So who isn't DRL? Phenom PICs, and SICs on Phenom/Praetor/Challenger, are assigned by the company according to their 8/6 or flexbid schedule. ILC ("International Large Cabin", the Gulfstreams / Globals) is its own entirely separate thing; people apply and are selected, without regard to seniority.
Also, how is it determined what aircraft a new hire is assigned to? Does the co. take into account what he or she has flown before; would someone coming from a Boeing background be more likely to get the Challenger as opposed to the Phenom? I have nothing against the smaller aircraft, just wondering.
You don't find out your fleet until day 1 of DFW indoc, and even then caution you that it may change. I know at least half a dozen people who were assigned a type in indoc, then before ground school got moved to another because training slots opened up.
I know a few people who were already typed on the Phenom or Praetor, and they all got that aircraft, but it's not guaranteed. In any event, they still go through the same initial training as everyone else.
I didn't notice any obvious correlation between past experience and fleet assignment, except maybe a small tendency to put more-experienced jet drivers in the Praetor or Challenger (but there were certainly exceptions; I know at least 6 people in those fleets who had zero prior jet time).
Embrace flexibility.
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