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Old 02-19-2024, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler View Post
If you stay here and upgrade into DRL or ILC, you won't have to worry about stupid PBS. Better QOL here begins when you get off the Phenom (if that's what you're in) and get on a RL team.
Stop bit**ing about something that you don't have to stay in very long.
Upgrade to DRL or ILC and never be truly off the clock again without jeopardizing your bonus pay. Gotta keep the storefront manned at all times, after all.
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Old 02-20-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler View Post
If you stay here and upgrade into DRL or ILC, you won't have to worry about stupid PBS. Better QOL here begins when you get off the Phenom (if that's what you're in) and get on a RL team.
Stop bit**ing about something that you don't have to stay in very long.
What happens when the music stops? You could get stuck with that sucktacious QOL for a long time. So why not push to have it fixed now? That's not really "bit**ing" so much as holding the company to its core principle of employees as the foundation of a service company and building long term relationships.
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Old 02-20-2024, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasLonghorn View Post
Upgrade to DRL or ILC and never be truly off the clock again without jeopardizing your bonus pay. Gotta keep the storefront manned at all times, after all.
Which is why I only calculate my base pay and never plan on a bonus. They can change it on a whim and poof, it's gone. If I do get a bonus, then it's a nice surprise and I'm never leashed to my work phone.
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Old 02-20-2024, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler View Post
If you stay here and upgrade into DRL or ILC, you won't have to worry about stupid PBS. Better QOL here begins when you get off the Phenom (if that's what you're in) and get on a RL team.
Stop bit**ing about something that you don't have to stay in very long.
Interesting as this is the NEW Company Mantra sent out by email. To tell me to stop Bit**ing is EXACTLY what I said, the company would prefer to use the STICK approach vs. the carrot approach, thank you for proving my point! (Im guessing you are in recruiting). Company is all about stats and they know most employees leave within 3 years (as you have heard). Telling me to stop bit**ing and stay around for 3 years does not solve the problem. Make the life BETTER for those on property under 3 years and they will stay here without being beaten with a stick. There are a lot of pilots who are SICs on all fleets and PICs on Phenoms that ABSOLUTELY hate the bidding system. Just give people what they bid for within reason and its the best system out there. The company has literally took what could be an absolute SELLING feature of Flex and turned it into a reason not to come. The recent email telling employees to focus on "what happens after PBS" is EXTREMEMLY disheartening, they have basically have told everyone on PBS, this is the best it gets. I wanted to hang on to see the PBS improve to what it could be, instead, I am interviewing for a 91 gig, with lower pay, but better schedule because THAT is what is important to me. Scheduling people for requested days off, having them call in sick (and telling them to wash their hands more), is the example of the pilots using the stick approach to the company. Its a good company but QOL means time with family, especially on important days.
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Old 02-20-2024, 07:08 PM
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I have flow with 2 former FlexJet pilots who are now at NetJets. They hated the seniority bidding and left because of it. They are both on 7/7 and love it. Even though FlexJet has a 8/6, I didn't know you couldn't be on it right away.
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by followingdreams View Post
Interesting as this is the NEW Company Mantra sent out by email. To tell me to stop Bit**ing is EXACTLY what I said, the company would prefer to use the STICK approach vs. the carrot approach, thank you for proving my point! (Im guessing you are in recruiting). Company is all about stats and they know most employees leave within 3 years (as you have heard). Telling me to stop bit**ing and stay around for 3 years does not solve the problem. Make the life BETTER for those on property under 3 years and they will stay here without being beaten with a stick. There are a lot of pilots who are SICs on all fleets and PICs on Phenoms that ABSOLUTELY hate the bidding system. Just give people what they bid for within reason and its the best system out there. The company has literally took what could be an absolute SELLING feature of Flex and turned it into a reason not to come. The recent email telling employees to focus on "what happens after PBS" is EXTREMEMLY disheartening, they have basically have told everyone on PBS, this is the best it gets. I wanted to hang on to see the PBS improve to what it could be, instead, I am interviewing for a 91 gig, with lower pay, but better schedule because THAT is what is important to me. Scheduling people for requested days off, having them call in sick (and telling them to wash their hands more), is the example of the pilots using the stick approach to the company. Its a good company but QOL means time with family, especially on important days.
I guess this still begs the question, then if the PBS leads to less satisfaction and predictability with your personal life, is the 8/6 a better option because youĺl gain predictability with a fixed schedule and know exactly what to expect each month? In response to the other post about Netjets, it doesnt make a whole lot of sense to leave to go to Netjets and make less money to then fly a 7/7 when Flex offers an 8/6. Not sure how that is an upward career move.
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Old 02-22-2024, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasLonghorn View Post
Upgrade to DRL or ILC and never be truly off the clock again without jeopardizing your bonus pay. Gotta keep the storefront manned at all times, after all.
DRL I got my work phone off. Hey RH, catch me if you can.
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Old 03-14-2024, 03:57 PM
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Understanding the fractional industry could have you leaving with little notice, whats the average overnight? 10 hours? 15? legs per day?
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Old 03-14-2024, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerospeed View Post
Understanding the fractional industry could have you leaving with little notice, whats the average overnight? 10 hours? 15? legs per day?
Plan on 10 hrs of rest, with 3-5 legs spread out over 14 hrs of duty, each day of your rotation. Anything less than that you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:12 AM
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A friend said they asked if he had any travel plans over the next year during his interview?
Has anyone been asked that. If so have they worked with you for the time off.
I have a wedding later this year and cruise next.
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