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joel payne 04-10-2013 11:47 AM

Flexjet hiring ?
 
Got word from my son, who is a Lear Capt. that Flexjet may be recalling and possibly hiring due to some early retirements. He doesn't know much more, since he is on vacation. Maybe someone else out there can confirm this. GOOD LUCK!!

Navajo31 04-11-2013 04:28 AM

They have a class of 4 this month. Not sure how deep into the 85 former Flexjet pilots they went to find them - but they did use the list.

Learguy 04-11-2013 04:20 PM

Considering that there were over 100 people laid off in the past years or so,,and,,I do think they will give them the opportunity to return, I think it would be quite a long time before the call goes out for new hires.

lear 31 pilot 04-11-2013 04:50 PM

I just wonder how many of those guys have moved to better jobs, the one person I know has a much better job know.

UCLAbruins 04-12-2013 12:30 PM

Executive Jet Management likes the FlexJet guys (so I hear)

joel payne 05-07-2013 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Navajo31 (Post 1388827)
They have a class of 4 this month. Not sure how deep into the 85 former Flexjet pilots they went to find them - but they did use the list.

Just talked to the son last night. Evidently there are going to be 4 more recalls offered. Must be kind of short handed since he likes to bid 12 duty day periods, but can only hold the 16 day duty periods. More $ but interferes with his other part time job.

gcap 05-07-2013 03:21 PM

I worked at Flex for a year after DL.

block30 05-29-2013 11:32 AM

Anybody see this?
Flexjet Reports Major Business Boost

Flexjet Reports Major Business Boost
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By Russ Niles, Editor-in-Chief




Flexjet, the aircraft management arm of Bombardier, says it's hiring pilots to meet the demand of a huge increase in business. While airframe companies have continued to say demand for their products is flat, Flexjet says demand for its services is up 83 percent in the first quarter of 2013 over the same period in 2012. "With the economy picking up speed, owners who have been tentative since the downturn have started to gain more confidence and are taking more and more trips," said Flexjet President Deanna White.

Sales of fractional shares went up 108 percent and jet card sales jumped 48 percent. At Easter, White said flying hours reached levels not seen since 2007. And while OEMs may be waiting for the same effect, White says the uptick in her business mirrors the general improvement in the world economy. "Having the Dow Jones Industrial Average reach a record-breaking 15,000 points is not only a significant financial milestone, but also very good for our industry," she said. "People are ready to get back to business, and Flexjet takes them there."

MilitaryAV8R 07-03-2013 09:06 PM

Just wanting to breath a little life into the thread again and see if there is any new info out there. I see from the APC page that there were 4 recalls in April and in May. Is there any word on if they had any recalls for June or July? I am hoping for a new hire slot after the new year. Still have just a little time to spend in the Army before I am done.

IFlyFL410 07-06-2013 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1438989)
Just wanting to breath a little life into the thread again and see if there is any new info out there. I see from the APC page that there were 4 recalls in April and in May. Is there any word on if they had any recalls for June or July? I am hoping for a new hire slot after the new year. Still have just a little time to spend in the Army before I am done.

More recalls starting in August and most likely more thereafter if business stays the way it is. As far as new-hires at the first of the year, highly unlikely they've made it through the list if furloughees at that point.

MilitaryAV8R 07-06-2013 08:52 PM

Thanks for the info. At least it seems there is movement in the right direction for now.

Likeabat 08-03-2013 03:38 AM

They placed an ad this morning.

First Officer - Richardson, TX - Indeed Mobile

MilitaryAV8R 08-03-2013 11:12 AM

This is indeed wonderful news. Something I see on their website is the "ideal" candidate will live within 1.5 hours of the assigned airport. Is this something new for them? I have spoken with pilots that fly for them and live 3+ hours away and said that as long as you make your flights they do not care. Anybody have any info on this? How firm are they on the 1.5 hour? I meet every other item on the list but live about 3 hours away.

alphonso1 08-03-2013 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1456690)
This is indeed wonderful news. Something I see on their website is the "ideal" candidate will live within 1.5 hours of the assigned airport. Is this something new for them? I have spoken with pilots that fly for them and live 3+ hours away and said that as long as you make your flights they do not care. Anybody have any info on this? How firm are they on the 1.5 hour? I meet every other item on the list but live about 3 hours away.

MilitaryAV8R,

You Live 3 hours away and I live half way across country, but, I would be more than happy to keep a Crash Pad In Richardson, TX.

So, I've applied....I would say that you should have NO problem and would probably get the nod long BEFORE I would.

Likeabat 08-03-2013 12:24 PM

Has there ever been any talk of any other bases/domiciles?

Spoilers 08-03-2013 03:42 PM

How do base assignments work? Could a new hire hold ORD/MDW?

PopWash 08-03-2013 04:06 PM

You can choose any base you want. I should point out that many management positions (CEO, Chief Pilot, Director of Ops, Head of human resources...) are different people now than a year or so ago. And definitely different than the last time we hired. So hard to say if any new policies are in place. In the past they said they like NYC based people as that is our most busy base, but I don't know if that would really give you much of an edge. A lot of people like more than 1.5 hours, but many have a crash pad or relatives or friends so they can say that the night before they start a trip they will technically be in their base. If you tell them that you plan to commute from provo utah they might raise an eyebrow, but as long as it's semi-resonable you shouldn't have a problem. Just dont try and hide it, just talk about how you are aware of the rule and this is how I'm going to make sure I never miss a trip.

Spoilers 08-03-2013 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by PopWash (Post 1456809)
You can choose any base you want. I should point out that many management positions (CEO, Chief Pilot, Director of Ops, Head of human resources...) are different people now than a year or so ago. And definitely different than the last time we hired. So hard to say if any new policies are in place. In the past they said they like NYC based people as that is our most busy base, but I don't know if that would really give you much of an edge. A lot of people like more than 1.5 hours, but many have a crash pad or relatives or friends so they can say that the night before they start a trip they will technically be in their base. If you tell them that you plan to commute from provo utah they might raise an eyebrow, but as long as it's semi-resonable you shouldn't have a problem. Just dont try and hide it, just talk about how you are aware of the rule and this is how I'm going to make sure I never miss a trip.

Thanks for the info! I just said ORD/MDW because it would be the closest base to where I live (MI).

What are the schedules like? Days on/off rotation? Any idea how they look on 121 guys for hiring?

Thx.

PopWash 08-04-2013 06:09 AM

we have a preferential bidding systems that averages everything out to about 15 days a month. You basically get given a list of 5000+ possible schedules and rank them in order of what you want. Sounds like a lot of work but not too bad once you get the hang of it. You can work between 12 and 18 days a month (you can only be forced to work between 14-16, outside of that is voluntary), and from 4-8 days on the road at a time (more than 6 is voluntary only). So lots of variety is possible. Some guys like long trips, some like short. Hopefully everyone gets their top choice but new guys will get the leftovers. Hard to say what those left overs will be.

Not sure about 121 time helping. I'm sure it's a bonus at least.

fly4michelle 08-04-2013 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by PopWash (Post 1456941)
we have a preferential bidding systems that averages everything out to about 15 days a month. You basically get given a list of 5000+ possible schedules and rank them in order of what you want. Sounds like a lot of work but not too bad once you get the hang of it. You can work between 12 and 18 days a month (you can only be forced to work between 14-16, outside of that is voluntary), and from 4-8 days on the road at a time (more than 6 is voluntary only). So lots of variety is possible. Some guys like long trips, some like short. Hopefully everyone gets their top choice but new guys will get the leftovers. Hard to say what those left overs will be.

Not sure about 121 time helping. I'm sure it's a bonus at least.

I know the conference call Friday said they were bringing 20 back and expecting a 75 percent take on recalls. Does anyone know how to see a furlough list so we know where we stand in recall order? I understand we have to re-apply and go through the interview process, but they are re-calling in seniority order for the interviews and I bet it will be well over a year or two before they get through the entire furlough list. It would be nice to see where we stand on the
list.

MilitaryAV8R 08-04-2013 02:01 PM

I certainly hope it will not be a year or two before new hires can get in.

OnMyWay 08-05-2013 09:04 AM

Please, forgive my ignorance on this issue, but how does one commute if FlexJet does not have a CASS membership? Or do they?

NoJoy 08-05-2013 09:33 AM

I am sure when they say "commute" it means buy your own ticket or use your airline miles to get to base the night before showtime.

vl782 08-05-2013 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by PopWash (Post 1456941)
we have a preferential bidding systems that averages everything out to about 15 days a month. You basically get given a list of 5000+ possible schedules and rank them in order of what you want. Sounds like a lot of work but not too bad once you get the hang of it. You can work between 12 and 18 days a month (you can only be forced to work between 14-16, outside of that is voluntary), and from 4-8 days on the road at a time (more than 6 is voluntary only). So lots of variety is possible. Some guys like long trips, some like short. Hopefully everyone gets their top choice but new guys will get the leftovers. Hard to say what those left overs will be.

Not sure about 121 time helping. I'm sure it's a bonus at least.

I am pretty unfamiliar with Flex Jet but just wondering how the quality of life is. I also have a LR45 type rating, does that help get a foot in the door or really not matter. How exactly does one get to work. I live in Grand Rapids, MI which is about 3 hours from ORD/MDW. Does Flex Jet buy airline tickets to get their folks to work? Thanks for any info you have. I appreciate it.

PopWash 08-05-2013 06:43 PM

You'd be on your own to get to ORD, or whatever base. Just gotta make the drive if you want to keep living there. But, at the end of your trip, you have the option to be flown someone else if it is cheaper than flying you to your base. A lot of people are asking for more bases (netjets has over 100 or something I think), but not sure if it is likely or which bases it would be.

QOL is ok. not awesome. Better than FLOPS (no offense), but probably not as good as netjets. Hard to say for anyone who has not worked at both. Improvements are slow to be enacted, but they do make changes. Pay could be better. We definitely have the most flexible schedule options.

EDIT: And let me clarify in case I didn't understand your question. Lets say you are based in ORD. 90% of the time the company will buy you an airline ticket from ORD to wherever the airplane is. So on your first day you drive over to ORD, park your car, get on the airline and go meet your plane. Fly around for a few days, then they buy you an airline ticket back to ORD. On some occasional, based purely on luck, there will be an airplane there in ORD (or MDW, UGN...) and you'll "pick up" the airplane in your base.

And I'm sure a 45 type will help, although then again they are hiring into the 300 so it might not have much of an impact.

NoJoy 08-05-2013 08:23 PM

Thx for the update PopWash^^^much appreciated! The 300 is a sweet plane, and has the Colins Proline21 system to boot. Great combo.

MilitaryAV8R 09-04-2013 11:12 AM

I need some advice from someone in the know about the application for FlexJet. As I stated earlier in this thread, I live 3 hours from the Dallas area. From another FlexJet thread I read the following, “gateway rules state that, regardless of where the crewmember lives, it is expected that on the first day of the rotation the crewmember will be in a location which will enable the crewmember to report to their gateway hub airport within 1.5 hours of contact.”

My dilemma comes from the question that is on the application website. It simply states, “Are you able to report to assigned domicile within 1-˝ hours of contact?” Because the question on the website is written the way it is, I have marked that answer as NO. I do however have a plan in place that will allow me to meet the 1.5 hour starting the day of my rotation as mentioned above. In fact as a last resort the wife (an A&P mechanic) has floated the idea of getting an airplane so I could make 1.5 hours even from home. As we all know the expense of that idea makes it not really feasible.

My fear right now is that marking that question as NO, I am going to be eliminated by a computer before I even get the chance to explain my plan for making all my flights on time. I guess I am looking for some advice on this matter. Should I keep the answer as NO because I live 3 hours away and risk never getting a call, or change it to YES because I have a plan in place to meet the 1.5 hour on the day my rotation starts? Perhaps a better question might also be how do you interpret the intent of the question on the website?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

dudemize 09-04-2013 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1476975)
My fear right now is that marking that question as NO, I am going to be eliminated by a computer before I even get the chance to explain my plan for making all my flights on time. I guess I am looking for some advice on this matter. Should I keep the answer as NO because I live 3 hours away and risk never getting a call, or change it to YES because I have a plan in place to meet the 1.5 hour on the day my rotation starts? Perhaps a better question might also be how do you interpret the intent of the question on the website?

AV8r, as an outsider (NJA furloughee) I would absolutely answer yes to that question. You have a plan in place to do that so you are good to go, IMHO. They are not asking if you live within 1.5 hrs, just that you can comply.

Good luck!

IFlyFL410 09-04-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1476975)
I need some advice from someone in the know about the application for FlexJet. As I stated earlier in this thread, I live 3 hours from the Dallas area. From another FlexJet thread I read the following, “gateway rules state that, regardless of where the crewmember lives, it is expected that on the first day of the rotation the crewmember will be in a location which will enable the crewmember to report to their gateway hub airport within 1.5 hours of contact.”

My dilemma comes from the question that is on the application website. It simply states, “Are you able to report to assigned domicile within 1-˝ hours of contact?” Because the question on the website is written the way it is, I have marked that answer as NO. I do however have a plan in place that will allow me to meet the 1.5 hour starting the day of my rotation as mentioned above. In fact as a last resort the wife (an A&P mechanic) has floated the idea of getting an airplane so I could make 1.5 hours even from home. As we all know the expense of that idea makes it not really feasible.

My fear right now is that marking that question as NO, I am going to be eliminated by a computer before I even get the chance to explain my plan for making all my flights on time. I guess I am looking for some advice on this matter. Should I keep the answer as NO because I live 3 hours away and risk never getting a call, or change it to YES because I have a plan in place to meet the 1.5 hour on the day my rotation starts? Perhaps a better question might also be how do you interpret the intent of the question on the website?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

As a Flexjet pilot who has commuted 4 1/2 hours for the past seven years, I can tell you that it doesn't matter where you live so long as you are at work on time. I generally drive down to my base the night before unless it's a late show time for the trip then I'll drive down the morning of. Like the previous guy said, definitely answer "yes" to the question. And if you get an interview and they ask if you'd be willing to relocate if that's what it took then tell them "yes," as well. If hired, they will airline you from wherever you live for the first 90 days and if you need a little more time after that they're pretty good about making that happen, also. Good luck. Keep the questions coming if you need more info.

MilitaryAV8R 09-04-2013 04:07 PM

Thank you both for your input. I have gone back and changed my answer to YES for the question. I of course hope to get the opportunity to interview. FlexJet is at the top of my list where I would like to start my second career. I have been flying VIP jets for the Army 5 years now and I really enjoy the mission. FlexJet would be a natural progression for me and living in TX, it would work out perfect.

Thanks again.

IFlyFL410 09-04-2013 05:02 PM

Things just got very interesting around here about 5 o'clock today. Find out tomorrow morning at 815a what's going on...

MilitaryAV8R 09-04-2013 05:17 PM

Sorry, I had no idea my changing one answer on my application would cause such a ruckus. :D J/K

B727DRVR 09-04-2013 05:42 PM

Hopefully good news..
 
Hopefully great news.......

There's not enough of that in aviation.....

MilitaryAV8R 09-04-2013 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by B727DRVR (Post 1477271)
Hopefully great news.......

There's not enough of that in aviation.....


+1 What he said.

WARich 09-04-2013 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by IFlyFL410 (Post 1477237)
Things just got very interesting around here about 5 o'clock today. Find out tomorrow morning at 815a what's going on...

They have ads out........perhaps they could now review my app...or should I reapply every time I see it.......They have their pick now, but time is short before the majors start taking everyone...maybe they should be opening the door a little more.....just saying....:rolleyes: Not everyone wants to go to the majors.....

MilitaryAV8R 09-04-2013 07:22 PM

Each time I dig into the news to find FlexJet, it seems all I find is good things. Here is one I found from about a week ago.

On Tour Logistics expands private air travel offering with Flexjet relationship

Who knows, perhaps there could be good news coming soon for those of us looking to get our foot in the door.

philobedeaux 09-04-2013 07:46 PM

Are they currently interviewing? I put in an app a few weeks ago and have not heard a word. Anybody get a call or anything? What's the scoop?

WARich 09-04-2013 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1477372)
Each time I dig into the news to find FlexJet, it seems all I find is good things. Here is one I found from about a week ago.

On Tour Logistics expands private air travel offering with Flexjet relationship

Who knows, perhaps there could be good news coming soon for those of us looking to get our foot in the door.


Yeah, but how many dudes are they hiring right now that really only want a job and will bail once they get the job from the majors.........Here I'm sure there are several dudes that actually want them over the majors yet we don't get any love..... are they really that stupid?

MilitaryAV8R 09-05-2013 05:59 AM

I think I have found what the big news is.

CLEVELAND: Directional Aviation Capital Adds Flexjet to Portfolio of Private Aviation Companies | Business Wire | Rock Hill Herald Online

I am not certain what to think about the sale of the company, but the news that they are buying a lot more jets is great news.

MilitaryAV8R 09-05-2013 12:09 PM

From the guys there at FlexJet, anything significant from this new announcement that they are saying? I saw from the news report there are a lot of jets being ordered so that should be good.


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