Regional as a means of building time.
03-28-2007, 08:54 PM
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It hurts to say it......
Why don't you get an aviation degree? As we have all stated on here thousands of times, a college degree is extremely important if you want to have a future in aviation. For most people, we recommend they get a different degree (business, engineering, etc...) so they have a backup incase flying doesn't work out.
You have stated that you can't stand general ed classes you are not interested in. But you have also stated that you are very interested in your aviation studies. Why not kill two birds with one stone (get college credit and learn about aviation).
It is no secret that without a college degree, the best job you can climb to will be captain at a regional airline. You will be flying 70 seat RJ's, maxing out at $90k, flying 5-6 legs a day, etc.. To sum it up, you will be doing the same work as a major airline pilot (flying a jet commerical airplane), your job will be harder than the major airline pilot (more legs), you will work more than the major airline pilot (more days and longer days), you will make less than the major airline pilot (Can top out at $200-$250k at a major, only $90k at a regional). BIG DIFFERENCE! Suddenly, those four years you spend at a regional instead of going to college would be made in less than one year at a major airline. And you will be costing yourself MILLION(s) of dollars over the course of your entire career.
You already have a year and a half of college done. That is probably most (or all) of any general ed you will need for an aviation degree. You should find a cheap school with an aviation program, get your degree, flight instruct while going to school, and when you graduate with an aviation degree, go to the regional of your choice.
It is the year 2007. Why so many people who have the opportunity to go college pass it by is completely beyond me!!!
Why don't you get an aviation degree? As we have all stated on here thousands of times, a college degree is extremely important if you want to have a future in aviation. For most people, we recommend they get a different degree (business, engineering, etc...) so they have a backup incase flying doesn't work out.
You have stated that you can't stand general ed classes you are not interested in. But you have also stated that you are very interested in your aviation studies. Why not kill two birds with one stone (get college credit and learn about aviation).
It is no secret that without a college degree, the best job you can climb to will be captain at a regional airline. You will be flying 70 seat RJ's, maxing out at $90k, flying 5-6 legs a day, etc.. To sum it up, you will be doing the same work as a major airline pilot (flying a jet commerical airplane), your job will be harder than the major airline pilot (more legs), you will work more than the major airline pilot (more days and longer days), you will make less than the major airline pilot (Can top out at $200-$250k at a major, only $90k at a regional). BIG DIFFERENCE! Suddenly, those four years you spend at a regional instead of going to college would be made in less than one year at a major airline. And you will be costing yourself MILLION(s) of dollars over the course of your entire career.
You already have a year and a half of college done. That is probably most (or all) of any general ed you will need for an aviation degree. You should find a cheap school with an aviation program, get your degree, flight instruct while going to school, and when you graduate with an aviation degree, go to the regional of your choice.
It is the year 2007. Why so many people who have the opportunity to go college pass it by is completely beyond me!!!
03-28-2007, 09:01 PM
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i had thought about that.. but i've heard so many people say that a degree in aviation is a bad idea. would leave me nothing to fall back on if something were to happen....
and regardless, this thread isn't really about college... i have pretty much decided i'm going to start taking online classes and start chugging away on my education again starting this summer. i just needed a semester to take a break and find my place. this thread is more about the option of what to do at 300 hours. whether it would be more beneficial to hop on and fly a beech 1900 or to instruct till i get 600-800 and try to hop straight on to an RJ.
and regardless, this thread isn't really about college... i have pretty much decided i'm going to start taking online classes and start chugging away on my education again starting this summer. i just needed a semester to take a break and find my place. this thread is more about the option of what to do at 300 hours. whether it would be more beneficial to hop on and fly a beech 1900 or to instruct till i get 600-800 and try to hop straight on to an RJ.
03-29-2007, 07:32 AM
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Although I'm not a wise sage quite yet, I am finishing up my final semester of college and so have been reflecting on what college has meant to me over the past 4 years.
I started flying when I was 16, while in high school, then went to college at Arizona State (far from home), then quit flying to concentrate on studies.
Now that I'm back in the flying game, or will be soon, I've realized how important college is. I've realized I can learn things much more quickly and efficiently, teach concepts better, have better people skills, and can write much more professionally. All these things will give you a huge edge in life over people without a degree...Also, no matter how mature one can be, college takes it to a whole different level. One can be mature without a college degree, but it takes a college degree to be professional. This is of course, my opinion.
You should come to Arizona State! I had a great time. It's sunny everyday, beautiful women parade the campus, a number of great professors work there, and they even have a flight program at the East Campus. From what I've heard, people really enjoy it.
Hope you do well regardless, just 'put in the time' and you'll feel the satisfaction in the end!
I started flying when I was 16, while in high school, then went to college at Arizona State (far from home), then quit flying to concentrate on studies.
Now that I'm back in the flying game, or will be soon, I've realized how important college is. I've realized I can learn things much more quickly and efficiently, teach concepts better, have better people skills, and can write much more professionally. All these things will give you a huge edge in life over people without a degree...Also, no matter how mature one can be, college takes it to a whole different level. One can be mature without a college degree, but it takes a college degree to be professional. This is of course, my opinion.
You should come to Arizona State! I had a great time. It's sunny everyday, beautiful women parade the campus, a number of great professors work there, and they even have a flight program at the East Campus. From what I've heard, people really enjoy it.
Hope you do well regardless, just 'put in the time' and you'll feel the satisfaction in the end!
03-29-2007, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MEMpilot
You should come to Arizona State! I had a great time. It's sunny everyday, beautiful women parade the campus, a number of great professors work there, and they even have a flight program at the East Campus. From what I've heard, people really enjoy it.
hehmy cfi is actually a college professor and he said there isn't any reason you can't do your first 2 years at a community college, saves so much money and you get the same degree from the university in the end. just his .02
03-29-2007, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mcartier713
i had thought about that.. but i've heard so many people say that a degree in aviation is a bad idea. would leave me nothing to fall back on if something were to happen....
I am glad to see you are going to take classes. Your professor is right to say that educationally, there is not much difference between 2 years at a JC and then 2 years at a univeristy (like ASU). The HUGE DIFFERENCE is in college experience. Freshman year is the most fun year of your life, and that is where you will meet many of your life long friends!
03-29-2007, 03:05 PM
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mcartier713,
You're completely right, I should've mentioned that myself. I had a different conception of what a community college was when I lived in Memphis, but when I moved to Arizona, I realized they are pretty solid institutions.
I minored in Japanese in college and know lots of people who took the courses for a fraction of the price at Scottsdale Community College. The Japanese program I've heard, is the hardest language program at Arizona State, yet the professors at both SCC and ASU were of the same caliber.
You should definitely do that if money is an issue. Especially since ASU is constantly raising costs to fund never ending construction projects....And living in PHX, I'm sure you're all too familiar with that evil light rail construction...will I ever get out of traffic we think?
Anyway, I hope it works out for you, maybe you should hit up some sites for scholarships
You're completely right, I should've mentioned that myself. I had a different conception of what a community college was when I lived in Memphis, but when I moved to Arizona, I realized they are pretty solid institutions.
I minored in Japanese in college and know lots of people who took the courses for a fraction of the price at Scottsdale Community College. The Japanese program I've heard, is the hardest language program at Arizona State, yet the professors at both SCC and ASU were of the same caliber.
You should definitely do that if money is an issue. Especially since ASU is constantly raising costs to fund never ending construction projects....And living in PHX, I'm sure you're all too familiar with that evil light rail construction...will I ever get out of traffic we think?
Anyway, I hope it works out for you, maybe you should hit up some sites for scholarships
03-30-2007, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ryane946
That is somewhat true. An aviation degree does not give too much to fall back on.
Don't you realize that if you lose your medical 10 years from now, it won't matter what your degree was in. Whatever field you decide to go into after getting out of aviation, there will be fresh college grads ready to get their start - and their education will be a lot more recent than yours.
03-30-2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by POPA
Sweet baby Jesus, I'm sick of hearing this crap.
Don't you realize that if you lose your medical 10 years from now, it won't matter what your degree was in. Whatever field you decide to go into after getting out of aviation, there will be fresh college grads ready to get their start - and their education will be a lot more recent than yours.
Don't you realize that if you lose your medical 10 years from now, it won't matter what your degree was in. Whatever field you decide to go into after getting out of aviation, there will be fresh college grads ready to get their start - and their education will be a lot more recent than yours.
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