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Old 10-13-2005, 09:00 PM   #1  
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Hey, I'm a junior at South Dakota State University where I am majoring in Aviation Education, and in one of my classes we have been assigned in designing new courses. One of the ideas is to create an "Airline Prep" class. This class is mainly going to contain systems of larger aircraft like the Beech 1900, and kind of a course to demonstrate what its like to be an airline pilot. I'm asking if any of you have suggestions of topics that we could cover or any ideas of other things that could be taught. Thanks ahead of time.
Old 10-14-2005, 01:26 PM   #2  
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i would check other aviation colleges websites for their catalogue's. UND, ERAU, and i know Dowling College on long Island has them up. They all have classes aimed at just what you are looking for.
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Hey thanks a lot for the suggestion
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I used to go to Florida Tech in Melbourne, FL. They had a Turbine Transition Course, as well as Advanced A/C Systems based on the MD-80 (or one of the versions of that airplane...hehehe) I now go to a Community College in Allentown, PA and our Advanced A/C systems was based on Beech/Ratheon products, we also had an engines class w/ a cut-away GE turbojet engine from a Lear 24D...maybe this will help...maybe it won't? Good luck sir!

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I'm asking if any of you have suggestions of topics that we could cover or any ideas of other things that could be taught. Thanks ahead of time.
Try to avoid a particular type of aircraft unless you have a type rating, or extensive experience as an instructor on it. The law of primacy would state that it needs to taught correctly the first time, which includes theory, normal operation, irregular operation, failure modes, etc - as they apply to that airframe. Nothing personal, it just doesn't sound like you have the experience to tackle it (yet!, but you will one day).

Instead, teach the theory behind the systems that a student could apply to any transport category jet or turbo prop.

Here's the short list:

Air Cycle Machine
Transformer - Rectifier
Hydraulic Accumulator
Combustion Cycle in Jet Engine
Split Spool Turbo Fan
Prop Beta (not sure what that is

Anyway you get the idea. Teach 'em how learn aircraft systems, don't try to wow them with an aircraft that you don't have tons of experience instructing on.

Just my 2 cents...........

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I agree...teaching a specific aircraft is a waste of time since nobody knows what they will be flying next. I have been teaching a/c systems at 121 airlines for about 5 years now. I took a class at Embry-Riddle called Jet Transport Systems that covered general principles of various systems, but did not focus on specific a/c types. Try to find out what books/materials they are using to teach that class now. I pray that they are not looking to develop a pay for training type program there as well. Embry-Riddle offered training on the BE-1900 and 737 as part of the Aeronautical Science degree. It included ground school and about 20 hours of sim time (no rating!). It was actually required for the Airline Pilot area of concentration, and it cost about $10K for each a/c. An utter and complete waste of money if you ask me. The airline you get your first job with will provide you with the training you need to fly their a/c. I designed my own area of concentration to avoid taking these courses. You should, however, consider implementing CRM training into your course. I think this would be beneficial for aspiring airline pilots. Good luck!
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