ACE is a seperate program from OBAP. Its run by a guy who has ben flight Instructing for 40 years. W do send ACE students to the OBAP camps though, and we work with OBAP during their summer camps.

FWIW- I checked out an ATP guy so he could instruct in one of our club's 172s and 182s. Nice guy an all... knew his stuff well, was a great at giving a ground lesson- but couldn't fly his way out of a box if he had to. His call finally came a week or so later, do he left the club after about 20 hours of dual given for Mesa. Last time we spoke, he was having fun getting flogged by Johnny O. back in CLT.


I guess ATP is the happening place to be for those with SJS... :D

Look at the web site and see where MOST of those with SJSe are going!!!!!:rolleyes:
You may be flyin with them....

That isn't a comforting thought.

Yes, I've seen that, and it scares me.

What does SJS mean?

Shiny Jet Syndrome. I think there is a section in the Knowledge Base section. That or you can search for it.

Shiny Jet Syndrome is a derogatory term applied to foolish new pilots who accept less than desirable wages and work conditions because they are eager to fly a jet. Those who go to GoJets, Gulfstream, and Mesa are the most frequent recipients of the term, but it describes the mentality of fascination with expensive aircraft at the cost of sensible decision making. Hope this helps...
-Cub

But all of you except low wages when you go to a regional airline. And Ithink everyone who is a pilot fell in love with the idea of flying a jet

Not all of us started in jets at a regional...or a commuter as it use to be named. It's accept, btw.