question about ATP
 

heard a rumor that if you get your CFI (not necessarily at ATP)and go work with ATP that they will pay for your CFII and MEI (of course you have to work for them afterwards)...this coming from instructors that are there right now...anyone shed some light on this

i would only consider this cause the path of a non cfi is going slower then i thought (good money, not that much hours)

who knows, definitely sounds like a rumor.

I sorta doubt ATP would pay for the ratings, doesn't sound like them.

who knows?

Go to www.atpflightschool.com and click on drop down menu "CFI Jobs & More" and check it out for yourself.


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I noticed ATP has also changed there requirements for the Airline Career training program. They now require 25 hours of X-ctry time (up from 5 hours) and 85 hours TT (up from 55 hrs). They also require a 2 year degree or equivlant. Anybody know why they raised there prerequistes for the program?

Probably because they don't want any high-school dropouts to go straight into instructing/a regional career. Requiring at least a 2-year degree is much more reasonable.

Yeah, they probably had hassles trying to deal with underachievers or immature kids. My 141 school had that problem a few times...the young slacker doesn't study or prepare, his program slips way behind and then the parents get all PO'ed that all that money's gone with little to show for it.

I'll give ATP management some credit for dealing with the issue up front, rather just taking the student's money and then blaming the CFI for the end result.

I believe that the airline industry has requested/mandated/prefers having a pilot who can communicate using his or her writing skills to say...submit a report or something along those lines.

I know for a fact ERAU got feedback from the airlines back in the 70's about this very same issue. Riddle was turning out some great pilots, however, some weren't even able to fill out a report or express themselves using their writing skills. The airlines made this known to Riddle and the institution responded appropiately. Thus, the 4-year Aeronautical Science program.


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The program I'm currently going through offers a two year degree in junction with the certificated ratings, and I couldn't be any happier with it.

I think a lot of people tend to underestimate exactly how challenging some aspects of flight training can be. I've seen the end result of people trying to go through on the program on the parents coin and expecting it to just get handed to them and it isn't pretty.

I doubt ATP is making a moral stand here...if they didn't have the CFI turnover problems, they'd be happy to still take the HS dropout's money pass or fail.

k apparently no one knows the answer the question

...i called atp and they didn't help at all...they kept thinking that i want to start as a student after i told them at least 3 times that I had my CSEL and CMEL and was wondering about cfiing for them....who knows