Originally Posted by Flyboyxc91 (Post 1736943)

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I have flown a Red Bird FTD a couple hours just to see what it was about. I am making sure it was logged correctly by the CFII giving me the required checkout. He logged it in my logbook as "Ground Trainer" which I am assuming translates to equal FTD time. He also did log it as TT which I was questioning but he was the Expert not me. Anyway I have read this thread some and I believe it says DONT log TT from the FTD training...? What about when it's for the instrument rating? 20 hours can be used toward it in sim so wouldn't this throw off the TT calculation equation?

Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1737053)

Towards the rating it counts. You could do your CHECKRIDE in the sim if you wanted to. Yes you read that right. However no designee would ever agree to doing it that way.

Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 1737370)

Technically the Red Bird is an FTD, not a sim. You can complete SOME of the Instrument Check Ride in it, certain portions would still have to be competed in an aircraft. To log the time, the FTD also has to have an N-number, otherwise it's not approved.

Originally Posted by Flyboyxc91 (Post 1737613)

Indeed it does have an N number. So it is ground trainer and TT logable..?

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1737668)

Logable towards what?

Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 1737370)

Technically the Red Bird is an FTD, not a sim. You can complete SOME of the Instrument Check Ride in it, certain portions would still have to be competed in an aircraft. To log the time, the FTD also has to have an N-number, otherwise it's not approved.

Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1737745)

You can log time towards the instrument rating and thats it. It has to be a level c or d sim to log it as total time which an redbird sim is not.

Originally Posted by Flyboyxc91 (Post 1738319)

I believe the Redbird FMX is that level..? I need to look obviously to be sure. It is a FAA certified AATD..