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rickair7777 04-04-2006 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Ok rickair7777, ryane946 and you too, LA:

So, just to make clear, I don't need to take an RJ course at one of these schools in order to be considered for employment with one of the "partners" as long as I meet the prescribed minimums, correct?

atp

P.S. - Workday over. Talk with you guys l8r. :D

That would depend on that schools policy,,,they may require the RJ to ensure they milk you for as much money as possible.

BURflyer 04-04-2006 10:13 PM

Flightsaftey is one of the most expensive flight schools out there if not the most expensive. I think they are. I would go with ATP. All multi-engine time and greatly maintained aircraft to fly. Plus ATP throughs in the high altitude endorsment in the Citation where you actually log in the flight time. I'm considering ATP, Ari-Ben Aviator, and National Pilot Academy

Slice 04-05-2006 06:51 AM

Check out www.prairieairservice.com

Great training at affordable prices. I did my training there mostly in the Apache and had about 60 multi when I finished.

atpwannabe 04-05-2006 07:58 AM

FSA vs. ATP
 

Originally Posted by rickair7777
That would depend on that schools policy,,,they may require the RJ to ensure they milk you for as much money as possible.

Not trying to be a stick in mud, however, what's the use of going through the RJ course at the academy, only to go through the same cours as a NH? :confused:

Slice 04-05-2006 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Not trying to be a stick in mud, however, what's the use of going through the RJ course at the academy, only to go through the same cours as a NH? :confused:


The point is the school wants to milk you for all they can...my bet is no RJ course, no job interview or the like. Pretty shady and it should be illegal.

ctd57 04-05-2006 02:56 PM

RJ Course
 
Ya, they do have agreements based upon completion of that course. I am trying to stay away from that course. I am trying to get on with an airline that ATP has no association with. I have a couple of friends at that airline who are trying to get me in with a little less than required. They already said that they are willing to lower the mins because of my 4 year degree and all of the multi time. At the completion of the 90 day program, I had 140 hours multi. Now I am up to 470 TT with 340 multi. There are guys who did the course and said that it didn't help them in the long run anyway, but there are others who said the total opposite. Either way, I won't attend unless I absolutely have to. But, ATP is a great place to build up your multi time, and it is a guarantee that you will have students.

atpwannabe 04-06-2006 04:51 AM

Flight Safety vs. ATP
 

Originally Posted by ctd57
Ya, they do have agreements based upon completion of that course. I am trying to stay away from that course. I am trying to get on with an airline that ATP has no association with. I have a couple of friends at that airline who are trying to get me in with a little less than required. They already said that they are willing to lower the mins because of my 4 year degree and all of the multi time. At the completion of the 90 day program, I had 140 hours multi. Now I am up to 470 TT with 340 multi. There are guys who did the course and said that it didn't help them in the long run anyway, but there are others who said the total opposite. Either way, I won't attend unless I absolutely have to. But, ATP is a great place to build up your multi time, and it is a guarantee that you will have students.

Gentlemen:

Now that's the information that I have been looking for :).

I know now where I'm headed. Given all of the information, brochures, and genuine heartfelt advice I have received since posting remarks on these threads...JAX, FL...here I come!!!;)

LAfrequentflyer 04-06-2006 06:51 AM

57,

your prior military experience is also going to be a big plus...

ctd57 04-06-2006 10:19 AM

atpwannabe
 
I personally wouldn't recommed JAX, FL. It is just something about the vibe there. I felt like all of the instructors think that they are hard and cool because they are multi engine flight instructors. And they always quote TOP GUN lines, which is really not cool. Especially if you come from the Navy like me and know that they really don't do that stuff. Personally I would go to ATL. It is a booming location, they have alot of planes, it is a fun city, and the field they fly out of is tower controlled, and the runways just got resurfaced. The FBO that ATP is located in just got redone and pretty sweet also. You also get alot of good experience dealing with Atlanta Class B. But, you obviously have your own choice. I used to go to the Braves games when I wasn't flying and there is a brewery there called Sweet Water Brewery that does "tours" where you can hang out and have cold beer for $2 a piece. But anywhere you go, you will get good training from ATP.

atpwannabe 04-06-2006 10:28 AM

ctd57
 

Originally Posted by ctd57
I personally wouldn't recommed JAX, FL. It is just something about the vibe there. I felt like all of the instructors think that they are hard and cool because they are multi engine flight instructors. And they always quote TOP GUN lines, which is really not cool. Especially if you come from the Navy like me and know that they really don't do that stuff. Personally I would go to ATL. It is a booming location, they have alot of planes, it is a fun city, and the field they fly out of is tower controlled, and the runways just got resurfaced. The FBO that ATP is located in just got redone and pretty sweet also. You also get alot of good experience dealing with Atlanta Class B. But, you obviously have your own choice. I used to go to the Braves games when I wasn't flying and there is a brewery there called Sweet Water Brewery that does "tours" where you can hang out and have cold beer for $2 a piece. But anywhere you go, you will get good training from ATP.

Thanks for the info ctd57.

The only reason I had picked J-ville is that, I'm from Florida,(born & raised in Palm Beach County... now living in Naples) and that my 23 month old son and his mother (ex-wife):o , live in Ft. Pierce. Going to Jacksonville would make things easier in terms of visitations and seeing my parents every so often; straight down I-95 South.

But, o--o-o-o-oh the women in ATL!!!:D


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