Advice for high school student?
#11
Ok, I am an Embry-Riddle student and I regret my decision on coming here everyday. Riddle isn't worth the money you pay to come here...and the sales phrase they use "Airlines prefer aviation degrees" really isn't true. Go to a state school so you will not graduate $150K+ in debt (because your first job, if you go into the airlines you will not make much for that $20K a year IF THAT), then get your ratings at a "mom and pop" FBO. You will graduate much happier, your bank account will be much larger, and you will still have the degree and pilots license. I am transferring out of this place after this semester. If you have any questions on the school PM me I would be glad to answer any questions about the school! Which campus are you considering?
#12
Would you care to elucidate on that? Makes me wonder where your head is. You don't love your country? 'So, my fellow Americans; ask NOT what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country!' -John F. Kennedy
Think you are getting bogus information. Unless it has changed recently, ROTC obligates one for only 4 years of payback service. And. . you don't have to worry about how you are going to PAY for school. PLUS you have life-long warm & fuzzy feelings about 'serving' your country. IF you take flight training, that is where the 10 year obligation comes in. It is going to probably take the same ten years to run up through the civilian ranks to get the necessary qualifications to be considered for hiring. THEN, there is the mandatory 'personal references' you are going to have to produce. The BEST way to come by those is from military buddies, with whom you have served and flown.
That's all good and dandy, but if your joining the military just to get time to go to the airlines, you are going to hate life. Not sure if your keeping up with the times but there are dudes dropping UAV's right out of pilot training. They say they will get a follow on tour in a manned aircraft, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If you do get an aircraft, your next tour may be a non-flying tour such as ALO or some desk job.
At least, in the military, you are getting a good rate of pay and 'earning' your tickets on the taxpayer and you will arrive without the crushing burden of student loans and owing everyone tens of thousands of dollars.
Get the degree and then consider the Air National Guard.
I enlisted and served part time while going to college full time. Got 100% tuition, 650/month in GI Bill, 8k sign-on bonus (up to 15k now) and 20k in student loan repayment. That is the long way of saying I got my B.S. from a state school and up through my CFII and only had to take out one 5k loan. I paid that loan within 2 years of graduating. Through all this I went on many trips, and still managed to graduate in 3.5 years. I even got my unit to send me to pilot training. Best decision I have ever made.
There is alot to be said for being debt free, especially in today's economy, and the wages at the regional level.
To the OP, if your not considering the military because of the chance of not flying, look into the AIR National Guard. If not that's cool, it's not for everyone.
Goodluck with whatever you choose.
#13
PS-I don't want to do the military rout because that isn't my thing and i heard your not gurenteed to fly. Also if you go to a normal college but do ROTC heard you have to serve for 10 years and I'm not to sure about that.
So if you could please your best advice on everything-thanks[/quote]
[quote=W0XOFF;499352]Hmmm... . NOT the coolest thing to come onto a board where perhaps 80% + are former military and/or drilling Guard/Reservists and say 'that isn't my thing'.
I disagree, W0XOFF. I think it is great that the OP is being honest about his desire to not go the military route. It is important that those who serve in the armed forces do so for the right reasons. The military is not for everyone. I take no offense to that.
So if you could please your best advice on everything-thanks[/quote]
[quote=W0XOFF;499352]Hmmm... . NOT the coolest thing to come onto a board where perhaps 80% + are former military and/or drilling Guard/Reservists and say 'that isn't my thing'.
I disagree, W0XOFF. I think it is great that the OP is being honest about his desire to not go the military route. It is important that those who serve in the armed forces do so for the right reasons. The military is not for everyone. I take no offense to that.
#14
Since you asked for the best advice possible, I'll give you my best advice. Maybe you could get an English degree so you sound a little more professional. Your grammar/spelling is on par with that of a 4th grader. For your sake I hope you don't write like that on any of your college essays.
#15
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Good post, however your information needs a little bit of a reality check. No one starts at six figures out of school as a fresh aerospace engineer no matter what degree they obtain or what school reputation they bring along with them. People tend to overstate their salaries. I think you may have heard some stretches of the truth from your friend.
To the OP, engineering is a GREAT backup to a flying career. You are more or less guaranteed a job if you're willing to move, and the starting pay and benefits are very nice (somewhere around 55-60K/yr these days). Having an engineering degree is beneficial to flying, as you'll have already studied the physics involved, and will be able to quickly grasp other complex concepts (e.g. turbine aircraft systems, high alt meteorology, etc.). You will most likely have great study habits by the time you graduate, so any type of ground schools you do throughout your career will not really be a big deal.
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