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Old 02-03-2009, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mcartier713 View Post
and no, don't get an aviation related degree if you can help it.
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What major are you taking at MSU?
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Bachelors of Science in Aviation.

LOL!!! Good stuff.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:12 AM
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LOL!!! Good stuff.
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I was thinking the same thing...

But doesn't getting an aviation degree save money (FAA Credit) and keep you sharp when trying to break into the industry?
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:38 AM
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But doesn't getting an aviation degree save money (FAA Credit) and keep you sharp when trying to break into the industry?
I dunno. It might save you money if you can get credit for pilot ratings you already have. As for "keeping you sharp" for breaking into the industry, from what I've heard from others, there is almost zero net benefit to holding an aviation degree over any other when searching for pilot jobs.

If your goal is to "check the box" for a 4-year degree asap, an online degree might be for you. If you're interested in getting the most "bang for your buck," my advice (unsolicited, I realize) is to major in something you're interested in outside of aviation and preferably at a brick-and-mortar school. I believe there's much to be "learned" outside of books, through live interaction with instructors and peers.

It's a personal opinion, and advice that I doubt you are interested in... but you know how these forums are; everybody has to chip in their buck-oh-five.
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I dunno. It might save you money if you can get credit for pilot ratings you already have. As for "keeping you sharp" for breaking into the industry, from what I've heard from others, there is almost zero net benefit to holding an aviation degree over any other when searching for pilot jobs.

If your goal is to "check the box" for a 4-year degree asap, an online degree might be for you. If you're interested in getting the most "bang for your buck," my advice (unsolicited, I realize) is to major in something you're interested in outside of aviation and preferably at a brick-and-mortar school. I believe there's much to be "learned" outside of books, through live interaction with instructors and peers.

It's a personal opinion, and advice that I doubt you are interested in... but you know how these forums are; everybody has to chip in their buck-oh-five.
No I certainly appreciate your honest opinion... People should be able to call it like they see it without worrying too much about offending someone... The world would be much less of a charade if more people were like that in today’s paranoid and over-sensitive society.

I don't have time to dilly dally around with 'outside interests' at this point in my life because I don't have money, or rich parents... I need to get into some sort of career path and as quickly as possible... So unfortunately I have to resort to the box checking route. (As much as I'd love to attend a school) But I have plenty of life learning experiences... Probably way way more than someone who spent 18 to 23 living on a closed loop college campus with kids from the same age / race / income level drinking a ton of Natural Light... Nothing wrong with that, but I didn't take that path. I always worked, since I was 14... I went to community college while working 2 jobs so I could pay bills and own a car...

So that’s why I'm looking for efficiency so I can get started as a CFI ASAP and have most of my degree requirements done by the time I'm a year or 2 into a regional job...

Thanks for the info.

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Old 02-03-2009, 08:18 AM
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I went to community college while working 2 jobs so I could pay bills and own a car...
Been there, done that! For what it's worth, I was 26 when I graduated with my four year degree. I didn't earn my CPL or CFI until I was 28. You're probably not as far behind as you think.

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Thanks for the info.
No problem, Dan. If you are hellbent on being a professional pilot, remember that you likely have many more "broke" years ahead of you. I'm living testament to that.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.
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Been there, done that! For what it's worth, I was 26 when I graduated with my four year degree. I didn't earn my CPL or CFI until I was 28. You're probably not as far behind as you think.



No problem, Dan. If you are hellbent on being a professional pilot, remember that you likely have many more "broke" years ahead of you. I'm living testament to that.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

I might get laid off anyway In the long run i should make much more than I would ever make in my current career...

Thanks for the luck. I need some of that too! And I sure hope I'm not that far behind... I just don't wanna be like 35 and not own a house yet...
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In the long run i should make much more than I would ever make in my current career...
You'd hope so, but with the way things are going.....

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And I sure hope I'm not that far behind... I just don't wanna be like 35 and not own a house yet...
I understand how you feel. Just don't get so caught up on reaching the goal that you miss the experiences of the journey.
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You'd hope so, but with the way things are going.....



I understand how you feel. Just don't get so caught up on reaching the goal that you miss the experiences of the journey.
So you've peaked my interest. What would you recommend for someone like me? Bored at my job - hate sitting in cubicle, every industry is doing mass layoffs and its not looking good anywhere... don't make that much money and hate the corporate office environment. 24 yrs old, live with parents (but pay them rent). Has a PPL, loves to fly but can never afford to, really wants to try out career as a pilot. 2 yr degree.

Thanks for the advice.
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LOL
I was thinking the same thing...

But doesn't getting an aviation degree save money (FAA Credit) and keep you sharp when trying to break into the industry?
hahaha... see, for me it was just about getting something, ANYTHING. I failed out of college twice because nothing seemed to spark enough of an interest for me to go to class. When I failed out the 2nd time, I decided I wanted to learn to fly, and maybe in the meantime, I would mature enough to go back to school and actually go to class. So, now I'm at the point, 2 years later, I got 40 hours of "free" college credit back and I'm going to get a degree in something rather than nothing at all. To me, it's worth it.

I don't suggest getting an aviation degree, it just makes sense for me right now.

I would definatley listen to wafly, he's giving the best advice. If you can go back to a real school, get a degree in something that has worth (business, finance, engineering, etc.) and get your ratings/instruct, you're golden.
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hahaha... see, for me it was just about getting something, ANYTHING. I failed out of college twice because nothing seemed to spark enough of an interest for me to go to class. When I failed out the 2nd time, I decided I wanted to learn to fly, and maybe in the meantime, I would mature enough to go back to school and actually go to class. So, now I'm at the point, 2 years later, I got 40 hours of "free" college credit back and I'm going to get a degree in something rather than nothing at all. To me, it's worth it.

I don't suggest getting an aviation degree, it just makes sense for me right now.

I would definatley listen to wafly, he's giving the best advice. If you can go back to a real school, get a degree in something that has worth (business, finance, engineering, etc.) and get your ratings/instruct, you're golden.
Trust me, I understand the "sparking of interest" thing you are talking about.... I barely made it thru community college for the same reason. I was studying something just to get a piece of paper that would get me a job, and it was painful. Finance, Business, etc would bore me to death and I probably would never get thru it... Academically, the only things that interest me wouldn't pay money without a PHD or something... Like astronomy, ancient history (Mayan’s, Sumerians, etc not the storybook American history)... Aviation is one of those things I enjoy studying! There isn't much else out there that I enjoy studying that applies to careers available in today’s world.
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