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Old 05-04-2006, 06:38 PM
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I am going to get my first taste of international flying this monday. I am flying from the Pittsburgh area to Monterrey Mexico (MMAN).

Any tips, reccommendations, or advice for me regarding this little flight? Please no, "Don't drink the water" comments.
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First, stay away from small airports unless you speak Spanish, however, you should have no problem going into Monterrey.

Secondly, if you choose Brownsville or Harlingen (or somewhere else in the valley) as a port of entry airport, MAKE SURE you file a flight plan to your next destination. You will probably be IFR anyways, but if you have no flight plan and you head up north from the valley, the DEA will follow you!

Stay on an IFR flight plan through Mexico, especially at night. They have some weird VFR regs down there that got a guy I know into some trouble.

Enjoy Monterrey - it's a beautiful city.
 
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If your flying a King Air, make sure to have it secured and locked. I hear they are very popular airplanes to have stolen down there.
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We have $1000 Medeco locks on the plane . But I'm sure criminals can be quite creative.
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Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
I am going to get my first taste of international flying this monday. I am flying from the Pittsburgh area to Monterrey Mexico (MMAN).

Any tips, reccommendations, or advice for me regarding this little flight? Please no, "Don't drink the water" comments.
Mexican ATC is very, very laid back...you will usually have to call them at least twice to wake them up, and you will need to plan and ASK for your descents...otherwise you will arrive over your destination airport in the flight levels.

Also their function is more to ensure their governments control over you than to ensure your safety...you MUST know exactly where you are in night/IMC.

Transition altitude varies, refer to your jepps.

Also, the 10,000/250 rule applies to AGL in the vicinity of an airport, and there are some other speed restriction differences. Mexico Jepps discuss this also.

Have Fun.

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Old 10-23-2006, 07:07 PM
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Mexican ATC is very, very laid back...you will usually have to call them at least twice to wake them up, and you will need to plan and ASK for your descents...otherwise you will arrive over your destination airport in the flight levels.

Also their function is more to ensure their governments control over you than to ensure your safety...
This has got to be the most inaccurate comment about Mexican ATC I have ever read, pure baloney.

I sense some serious bigotry here
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what kind of aircraft are you flying down? What is the estimated time enroute?
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Secondly, if you choose Brownsville or Harlingen
Harlingen (HRL) is not a port of entry. Only Brownsville (BRO) or McAllen (MFE)
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:32 AM
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This has got to be the most inaccurate comment about Mexican ATC I have ever read, pure baloney.

I sense some serious bigotry here
No, its completely true. If you ever do ALOT of flying in Mexico and Central and South America you will find out that ATC can be quite lax at times. I can count numerous times that ATC took a couple of mins to respond to calls for alituide changes or freq changes or trying to vector you through a lvl 5 t'storm. I esp love the time I have been cleared for an approach while still 50 NM from the airport and not sure which approach I was just cleared for, real fun when your in the mountains at night.

No bigotry...just experience speaking
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Well, I see you may be generalizing. In my 25 years of experience flying in Mexico I can only recall two instances where a hand-off was late but the same has happened in the U.S., that doesn't mean I have had to wake-up the controller. CENAMER and AMAZON control are a different story, old equipment and understaffing play a significant role in providing a less than adequate service.

As for being vectored into a L5 storm, I am sure we become complacent because we're spoiled by U.S. ATC. If you expect ATC to vector you around weather outside the U.S., you are in for a few surprises. It is ultimately the PICs responsibility to remain clear of WX and terrain.

Also their function is more to ensure their governments control over you than to ensure your safety...
The above comment is sheer crap, not even in Cuban airspace would it hold water.

...and you will need to plan and ASK for your descents...otherwise you will arrive over your destination airport in the flight levels.


So who's flying the airplane you or the Controller?
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