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Old 05-22-2006, 04:13 PM
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Be very careful about renting your personal airplane...The FAA has requirements for this, but I would be more concerned with liability insurance. Food for thought...Cheers
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:23 AM
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Thanks... I am just throwing around thoughts. I don't know the rules and regs yet. I appreciate the advice.

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Old 05-23-2006, 11:11 AM
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The regs are no big deal. Basically, you have to do an annual inspection every hundred hours. The insurance is a nightmare, way more expensive than it's worth. At the same time, if you can develop a following and keep the airplane busy, say 10 hours a week, I think you'd do okay.
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Old 05-27-2006, 06:03 AM
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Some food for thought about buying a plane and renting it out...There is a 141 school that if you have the credit and $$$, you buy a brand new Cessna and do what they call a lease back. You lease it to the flight school, they manage it and cover the insurance for the students and supposedly you get enough money that covers all of the payments and maint. costs. Oh, you get to fly it whenever you want too. I don't know how well these programs work but but im sure someone on the boards has dealt with or heard about these.
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Old 05-27-2006, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TravisUK
Some food for thought about buying a plane and renting it out...There is a 141 school that if you have the credit and $$$, you buy a brand new Cessna and do what they call a lease back. You lease it to the flight school, they manage it and cover the insurance for the students and supposedly you get enough money that covers all of the payments and maint. costs. Oh, you get to fly it whenever you want too. I don't know how well these programs work but but im sure someone on the boards has dealt with or heard about these.
Beware! That's a clear violation of the "if it flies, floats, etc." rule. The only guy I know who did that gained big headaches and lost big money.
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Old 05-27-2006, 09:31 AM
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A link for all that is interested about leasebacks....The article was written in '98 so the figures have changed im sure.

http://www.avweb.com/news/usedacft/182799-1.html
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Old 05-27-2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TravisUK
Some food for thought about buying a plane and renting it out...There is a 141 school that if you have the credit and $$$, you buy a brand new Cessna and do what they call a lease back. You lease it to the flight school, they manage it and cover the insurance for the students and supposedly you get enough money that covers all of the payments and maint. costs. Oh, you get to fly it whenever you want too. I don't know how well these programs work but but im sure someone on the boards has dealt with or heard about these.
Leasebacks can work in some cases. The benefit is usually related to depreciating an asset at tax time and not really a reliable source of cashflow. I'd discuss the idea with a (good) CPA.

One thing that you need to ask is: "If the airplane can be purchased on credit, and the thing will be cashflow positive....why does flight school need you?"
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman653
Let me start with a little background. I am currently an aircraft rescue firefighter at DFW International Airport. The "port" takes care of me pretty well. I make a little over $60K a year as a basic firefighter. If I promote, I can make roughly $85k a year... eventually. I only have to work nine to ten days a month. The typical firefighter schedule.... one day on and then two days off. And I love my job.

I am married with kids. I have a very small mortgage (because I got lucky) and we are free of debt... besides the usual small expenses. My wife supports me (probably because she is tired of hearing about it).

Having said this, I also have a fixation with flying. My father worked for the airlines for 36 years and retired (not as a pilot, though). I worked for the airlines for a couple of years as a ramp rat. I loved it. Since this time, I have always wanted to fly. Friends have taken me up with them and we have putted around. I loved it.

I have been considering getting all of my licenses this summer and start instructing. (I really don't know how taking a loan for $35k in order to make $16/hour can be justified though.) I think that I would like to instruct for a few years (both single and multi) and then move on to something a little more sophisticated.

My question is: After instructing for a few years, what kind of options could be suggested for someone in my situation since I would really like to keep my day job?

Also, do the majors ever hire flight instructors with tons of hours... both single and multi? I bet those days are gone.

What do you guys/girls think?

I would appreciate the help.

Well, I love the thought and the idea of it. The truth is you'd probably get payed more at the majors when you reach in seniority (by far). However, training takes time and age is also a consideration that the airlines look at. Most usually have a cut-off age where they dont want to consider hiring you. Lets think about it: Each hiring that an airline does cost them money. The younger the better and lots of time to grow with the company. Note: This is just a time frame because of training and such, because I do not know your age. If you decide to take that route of getting all your liscenses while continuing your career as a firefighter. Best OF Luck! Seems like you've already gotten far in life. It wouldnt hurt to pursue your dreams to a futher extent. I'm behind you 100%
 
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