forumname

Probably exposed a bra strap somewhere along the way. The person it happened to probably could have cared less, but somebody else may have not found it acceptable.

Just a guess.

USMCFLYR

In today's age of Paris Hilton and some burger commercial on prime time TV - I can certainly understand how an exposed bra strap or something else of that magnitude would have become politically unacceptable Sometimes we really have lost sight of the bigger picture. Well....like another poster on this thread, my mom took my shirt and had it framed and it still hangs on my wall today. My first big step into the world of aviation. It is one of my proudest achievements.

USMCFLYR

forumname

I completely understand your view point and agree 100%. But you can never underestimate a person's ability to behave one way in the workplace, or a professional environment vs. how they are in their personal lives.

OR, to put in another way, what they deem acceptable, or care about in one place but not the other, etc.

HercDriver130

When I soloed a 152..... shirt got cut off...

When I soloed the T-37 in UPT....we got dunked in a kiddy pool.....

My T-38 solo... hell I think I drank a beer in flight room.

9ESOCCFI

Funny you should ask. I am planning on sending my first student on his first solo next week. I think the landings have finally clicked with him. That is a great feeling when you know they may not kill you. I will be cutting his shirt. I am going to tell him to wear a less than supreme shirt.

ryan1234

Well............... When I was in CAP we were doing the National Flight Academy.. basically a program to take kids (cadets) and get them from 0 hours to solo for a very reasonable amount of money (it was like $500 when I did it!). Well, CAP is generally very conservative about what could and couldn't be considered sexual harassment.... well, the class the year after mine had a girl who was "talked into" claiming she was violated by the shirt tail cutting exposing her "back" to the flight mates (later she said she really didn't care, but was "convinced" that she should care). Don't ask me what the skin coverage difference is in having a pool party and this. Anyways..... some of the instructors, who instructed at normal part 61 and 141 schools relayed the message.... it spread like wildfire to the other schools and CAP squadrons: don't touch a shirt tail - if they want they can bring a shirt to have "cut". The End.

TPROP4ever

And once again we prove that political corectness of one tends to ruin it for everyone.....sad

SKMD4ever

I agree. Some people need to just chill and not be so lawsuit-happy.

I never got my shirt cut, at the time I was not even aware that this existed and my instructor never said anything about it......he didn't even tell me I was going to solo that day until we were walking out to the airplane!! It would have been nice to have my shirt cut, but I did ask him to take a picture as I was getting off the airplane (smiling, drenched from the 100F summer day in the heart of Texas, still high from the experience.)

However, I do believe that this type of tradition should be continued if we hope to keep the spirit of aviation alive. All of my students have had their shirts cut, even female (she went to the bathroom first to take off her undershirt.) It's a huge moment in a pilot's career, what better way to remember it than to have an actual piece of that day. I always ask first, and so far no one has told me no.

One of my guys only had one shirt that day and it was a nice one. I told him we didn't have to cut it, and if he wanted to bring another shirt the next day I would gladly cut it and draw on it for him. He left initially, but came back 5 mins later and said, "it would not be the same...cut this one." That, my friends, says it all......

ciceroes

I saw a kid have it done last week. I can't wait until they do it to me!!! Coming up very soon...