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Old 01-25-2010, 01:16 AM
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I think one of the reason why i have not gone solo yet is because I have changed instructors like six times and each instructor has a different way of teaching stuff so I have to adopt to there way of teaching. The school moved my previous instructors to different programs, and the instructors I have now is not experience instructors.
How long have you been flying? Six instructors over sixty hours is a big part of the problem. This trend of high hours throughout your training will probably continue to occur if you can't stay with a steady instructor. It is probably very difficult for anyone to figure out what works for you if they can't spend a significant amount of time flying with you. I am assuming that it is clear that these instructors are not pushing you off to someone else because they don't want to fly with you, which happens unfortunately.

In any case, it is very important that you can stay with the same instructor for a considerable amount of time. If the school is constantly rotating instructors and students around, I question whether that is the right school to be at. The key is to get a steady instructor and keep flying regularly. Additionally, if you are not training often, your flight hours are going to be somewhat proportionally higher to the time you spread your training out. Try to think of taking an Algebra class only once a month and having to relearn everything again and again. Try to fly as often as you can and try to relax in the airplane.

If you are financially stable, I wouldn't give up. I struggled with soloing for some of the same reasons I mentioned above -- breaks in training and multiple instructors. After my solo, everything else came together in reasonable hours.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:25 AM
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I knew a guy that had 50 hours and hadnt soloed yet. Of course he was only 15 years old and couldnt solo yet. He started training when he was 13.
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Hello gestrich19,
The school that I am presently training at is a well recognize school in the United States. The school has a lot of students (contracted) or students who are in a different program and a few who is privately funded. So all the experience instructors have been moved to the contract students leaving the private funded student with inexperience instructors. I think that is 50% of the cause I have not solo, the other 50% is because of my landings and also not flying as often as possible because of the weather and other reasons. I want to say that you all for your help and advise. I really really appreciate your advise.

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Hello Everyone,
I want to say thank you for your advise and also your help. I did a couple of landings today and they were much better than before. The only problem that I had was landing on center line.Thanks to everyone once again for your time, advice and help. I could not of done it without your help. I really appreciate it. Thanks.

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Old 01-27-2010, 06:27 PM
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Nice Work!

You'll get better with landing on the centerline as you progress and really get experience with maneuvering the airplane during flare. It's a trick with using parefferal vision.

Keep it up!
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Originally Posted by toney View Post
Hello Everyone,
I want to say thank you for your advise and also your help. I did a couple of landings today and they were much better than before. The only problem that I had was landing on center line.Thanks to everyone once again for your time, advice and help. I could not of done it without your help. I really appreciate it. Thanks.

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For the centerline issue, I think most new pilots don't land on it because they are trying to put the nose of the airplane on the centerline.

If you remember your high school physics, you were probably taught about parallax, "the apparent displacement of an object as seen from two different points that are not on a line with the object". Essentially it means that if you are trying to line up two points, you have to be in line with them or your perspective is skewed.

IOW, if we were sitting dead center in the airplane, there would be no problem. But we are sitting a bit to the left, so we have a parallax problem.

The good news is that out vision and our brains are designed to compensate for this – even though you are sitting to the left of the centerline, if you keep yourself centered on the centerline, the airplane will be also.

You can actually prove this to yourself. Pull the airplane out of its tie-down and put in on a taxi line (where you won't be in the way). Absolutely centered with the nosewheel right on the line. Get in. If you look the distance ahead that you would look down the runway when landing, you'll see that the taxi line is centered right between your legs (or centered on your chest, or right on your nose). Move to the right seat and it will still be between your legs.

You'll hear about pilots "putting their right foot on the centerline" or keeping the centerline in the middle of the yoke, or between their legs. They're all talking about the same thing, just different ways of visualizing it. Center yourself and the airplane will land on the centerline.
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Hello Everyone,
I want to say thank you for your advise and also your help. I did a couple of landings today and they were much better than before. The only problem that I had was landing on center line.Thanks to everyone once again for your time, advice and help. I could not of done it without your help. I really appreciate it. Thanks.

toney.
Years ago one of the best things I would do and what I eventually had some of my students do was go on an observation flight.

Meaning going on a flight as a pax in the back and observing how it was being taught to the particular student. I would suggest going on this flight with a student that is in the same stage of training as you and with a different IP than your current one.

You really pick up good insight from different peoples prospectives and none of the stress of the flight is on you so you actually LEARN easier. And it should be FREE flight training.

No IP should have an issue with it either because you would be an extra set of eyes in the cockpit.

It's just a suggestion but when I was an instructor the students that observed vs not observing other flights continually got their tickets in about 10 hrs less.
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Hello Everyone,
Thanks for your advise on how to land on center line. I will keep these suggestions in mind when I am landing. I will update you on how my next flight goes. Thanks once again.

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Old 01-29-2010, 09:52 AM
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A good approach makes for good landings. Steady airspeed, steady descent rate, small corrections. As you see the runway start to grow in your peripherals, remove the power and start to flatten out, bleeding off any excess airspeed prior to touchdown.
As for the centerline, it sounds like you are very critical of yourself, thats good and bad.
A good fix for the centerline problem, pay your instructor an extra $5 for every miss, you will get much more accurate, quickly.
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Old 01-29-2010, 05:10 PM
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A good fix for the centerline problem, pay your instructor an extra $5 for every miss, you will get much more accurate, quickly.
HAHAHA! I should do that for supplemental income!
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