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Can't really 'totally violate' a 'recommended' entry The aim is not regulatory. Until someone gets hurt. |
Originally Posted by detpilot
(Post 789455)
Until you hurt someone and/or bend metal, then it's "Careless or wreckless operation."
The aim is not regulatory. Until someone gets hurt. - The overhead is actually recommended; part of the FAST 'PTS': AREA OF OPERATION: TRAFFIC PATTERNS TASK: OVERHEAD 360º TRAFFIC PATERN Objective: To determine that the applicant: Configures the flight for the echelon formation appropriate to the direction of break Maneuvers the flight to an initial approach for the landing runway Makes the appropriate ATC or traffic advisory radio calls Monitors other traffic in the pattern and de-conflicts as necessary Gives the appropriate pitch-out radio calls for the break and interval Flies the pattern as briefed using the appropriate altitude and airspeeds Flies a stabilized final approach Lands on the appropriate portion of the runway Monitors the wingmen and ensures all have cleared the runway and are ready to taxi |
Brother....
Check your PM's. USMC, not the fastest I've seen but a nice one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1IGj...ext=1&index=49 |
Originally Posted by ryan1234
(Post 789457)
If it was in formation, it would probably be condusive to normal operations, and not careless and wreckless unless you were doing something like 90 AOB @ 300kts
- The overhead is actually recommended; part of the FAST 'PTS': AREA OF OPERATION: TRAFFIC PATTERNS TASK: OVERHEAD 360º TRAFFIC PATERN Objective: To determine that the applicant: Configures the flight for the echelon formation appropriate to the direction of break Maneuvers the flight to an initial approach for the landing runway Makes the appropriate ATC or traffic advisory radio calls Monitors other traffic in the pattern and de-conflicts as necessary Gives the appropriate pitch-out radio calls for the break and interval Flies the pattern as briefed using the appropriate altitude and airspeeds Flies a stabilized final approach Lands on the appropriate portion of the runway Monitors the wingmen and ensures all have cleared the runway and are ready to taxi Sounds like a formation lead PTS. Grumble - that was a nice approach. Those crazy guys out in Japan! :eek: USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 789642)
What is the FAST PTS?
Sounds like a formation lead PTS. Grumble - that was a nice approach. Those crazy guys out in Japan! :eek: USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 789642)
What is the FAST PTS?
Sounds like a formation lead PTS. Grumble - that was a nice approach. Those crazy guys out in Japan! :eek: USMCFLYR That part of the PTS was a little part of the lead checkride PTS, there's also one for wing, etc. Of course these '360 overhead patterns' are a lot different than your average F/A-18 carrier break. :D In waivered airspace though, with an ACE and FAST card, a civilian can pretty much do a 400kt, 5g, 90 AOB break (if the aircraft can do it) with no adverse consequences. |
Ryan... how's your L-39 acquisition coming? That's a great airplane for a civilian. I know flight schools with them, and the prices seem to be under 100k now, although the per hour operating expenses are still pretty high.
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
(Post 789761)
Ryan... how's your L-39 acquisition coming? That's a great airplane for a civilian. I know flight schools with them, and the prices seem to be under 100k now, although the per hour operating expenses are still pretty high.
Ryan - you said That part of the PTS was a little part of the lead checkride PTS, there's also one for wing, etc. It didn't always work :( I wouldn't mind getting some time in a L-39. USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by Cubdriver
(Post 789761)
Ryan... how's your L-39 acquisition coming? That's a great airplane for a civilian. I know flight schools with them, and the prices seem to be under 100k now, although the per hour operating expenses are still pretty high.
Yeah the engines have a TBO of 1000hrs, T/O fuel flow usually results in around 330gph - so it can be kinda pricey. It seems like a lot of people that get them are in the 'more money than brains' club... guess it's sorta like the 'doctor killer' Baron/Bonanzas |
Only things for a wingman to say, "2, you're on fire, I'll take the fat chick." Anything else is extraneous comm.
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