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dl773 07-21-2013 11:48 AM

Does ATP hire outside CFIs?
 
Hello all,

I am currently attending a part 141 academy in Florida, but would prefer to instruct in the Atlanta area once I am finished here.

I read the information on their website about needing to work where they have availability, but I don't see anything directly related to hiring CFIs from outside ATP.

I wanted to ask here before I send them my information again, and then get marketing calls and emails from them for the next two months. . . Thanks again!

dl773 07-21-2013 11:55 AM

I would be willing to do my Multi, CFI, CFII and MEI with them.

ArrJay 07-21-2013 04:36 PM

Does ATP hire outside CFIs?
 
ATP is a Not a good cfi job. You could do much better if you are moving to Georgia. I would hit up the forum and find out what other flight schools are hiring in the area you are wanting to move to.

CBreezy 07-21-2013 05:24 PM

Agreed. Avoid ATP as a flight instructor job. The pay is incredibly poor and they do not treat their employees well.

dl773 07-21-2013 06:06 PM

I feel safer going through a larger flight school, at least at first. Plus I would really like to stay around the North Atlanta area. Not a great deal of options for part 141, and part 61 with some experienced competition.

abrahamgp 07-21-2013 06:37 PM

I had 7 instructors during my training at ATP PDK, they all kept complaining about working there. ATP will place you where they need you, they have now 4 instructors at PDK so i would think they are getting very busy there, most students who finish the ACPP there will like to instruct in Atlanta. I think they are opening a location at RYY though.
I went to pretty much every flight school in the Atl area looking for a CFI job without any dual given, no luck. Some chief pilots toldme they had a line of cfis before me. VPC, RYY, FTY, PDK, PUJ
Got a job in TX (not ATP), put my house in Atlanta for rent, brought my wife and kid to Texas, found a nice apartment, put my kid at school here, been here for 4 months and have close to 300 hrs dual given.
No regrets

CBreezy 07-21-2013 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by SurfNsun (Post 1449074)
They pay better than most regional airlines pay their first officers for first and second year. You will fly more often than if you work for any other flight school plus you will be flying a seminole. Good move. Be persistent and go in to meet any of the current employees. It will depend on instructor need and your perseverance

I have friends who taught there. They average a salary of $800-1000 a month and make $7 an hour for flight instruction. How is that better than a second year first officer at most airlines?

If you do enough research, there are plenty of great opportunities. I acquired well over 700 multi while flight instructing and literally made double what ATP instructors made.

CBreezy 07-21-2013 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by SurfNsun (Post 1449102)
I have friends who taught there as well and their retainer was $2000 a month plus bonuses. Not sure what year you are referring to but this would be something to look into. I definitely wouldn't go by what you say. And I also didn't say better than "most airlines." I specifically said regional airlines. In reference to your 700 multi acquired, I'm going to go ahead and make a safe bet it wasn't accumulated faster than the rate at which the ATP instructors are accumulating that same amount of multi.

I grossed $2000 every two weeks.

I accumulated 700 MEL hours in exactly one year.

gatorbuc99 07-21-2013 08:40 PM

Pretty much no. With the 1500hr rule forcing ppl to have to instruct longer, there's no room for outside cfi's anymore. $2,000 RETAINER...untrue. Might gross that INCLUDING retainer & bonuses.


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