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I went through PanAm in vegas, total cost including hotel was just about $6k plus food and gambling money.

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Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 1482713)

Would anyone care to explain why SW still follows this backwards policy of making its workers pay for the responsibility of training which it should rightfully undertake itself?

Sure. First, they do it because they can. There is no shortage of people willing to pay for their own type rating. Second, SWA requires a 737 type rating - i.e., SWA does not explicitly require you to pay for anything. If you do not already have one then YOU make the choice to pay for it yourself.

Personally, I call this forward thinking and not "backwards" on the part of the company. Any airline does not exist solely to provide jobs for people - they exist to be profitable.

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Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 1482794)

But how will applicants know that they'll get a call? If they don't, then they're left ten thousand $ in the hole.

Furthermore, what good is a type-rating without time in said type?

I don't mean to be a pain in the rear by asking so many questions; I'm only genuinely curious, that's all. I would tend to think that a successful airline like SW would be able to afford to train their new-hires like most airlines do.

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But how will applicants know that they'll get a call? If they don't, then they're left ten thousand $ in the hole.

They do not know. You are correct in saying that one could spend thousands of dollars on a type rating only to never have it pay off in their favor. This is why one must do the pro vs con analysis when contemplating who to work for. Personally, while I really respect SWA and think they are a great company, I refused to pay for my own type rating in the "hopes" of ever getting a call from them. I just did not want to work for them that bad.

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Furthermore, what good is a type-rating without time in said type?

It isn't.

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I would tend to think that a successful airline like SW would be able to afford to train their new-hires like most airlines do.

I'm a capitalist through and through and a firm believer in free-market economics. The ONLY reason SWA can do this is because the market allows for it - i.e., there is more than an adequate supply of people attaining 737 type ratings (either paying for it themselves or earning one at a different carrier). While I would not pay for my own type rating, at the same time I cannot fault SWA management for requiring a 737 type rating.

Does anyone know someone who waited until they got the job offer before getting the type?

I know several guys who got it beforehand who didn't get an offer......

Seems to me the requirement of a 737 type would need to be validated with current employees. Can they still do that being that now the AirTran guys can't all be typed in the 737? Am I Right?

Really, a 737 type...why? If I'm paying for it, I'd rather get typed in the Concord. What's the sudden fascination with the 737? I think it's an ugly airplane...IMHO

No such thing as a ugly airplane

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Originally Posted by Hawker Driver (Post 1483711)

Does anyone know someone who waited until they got the job offer before getting the type?

I know of one guy...had come off the MD-80 at another company, interviewed, got the offer, and I think it was six months to get the 737 type. He did it a couple weeks later, called SWA, and got a class date.

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Originally Posted by EvertsDC9 (Post 1484263)

Really, a 737 type...why? If I'm paying for it, I'd rather get typed in the Concord. What's the sudden fascination with the 737? I think it's an ugly airplane...IMHO

I'd rather be typed in a 737 than a DC9. I think it would be much easier to find a job.

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Originally Posted by dudemize (Post 1483044)

Hard to go wrong with HPA but it's not cheap! It will probably set you back 12k+ after hotel/food/booze (assuming you don't live in Dallas).

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I did the HP B737NG and it was $10K (VA paid). The classic I think runs about $7K. I stayed at a friends place, so I made out there. I would highly recommend HP. Great atmosphere and good instructors!