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ChinookDriver47 09-09-2014 12:04 PM

How much for a BFR?
 
Hi there!

Looking for some professional input from other folks here, primarily other freelance / independent CFI's.

Do you do a normal hourly rate (mine is 40, 35 if you pay cash), or a flat rate for BFR's and IPC's? If so, how much for either?

Thanks!

CD

TonyC 09-09-2014 12:08 PM

If you're still doing BFRs, you're not up on current regulations. In fact, you're years behind. If I were shopping for an FR, I'd look elsewhere.






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eman 09-09-2014 02:06 PM

How much for a BFR?
 
Did the content, ground/flight time requirement, frequency of its need, or standards of a BFR change when the name changed to FR?

As for the OP. In my area I charge $50/hr and $40 or reduced for those people I know very well. I tend to be flexible on prices because I have had students who I see are in need but have a dream to become licensed or stay current while chasing jobs, so it's not always firm. But I make sure I don't undercut the other guys in my area.

I have yet to come across someone who was ready after only one hour of ground & one of flight. Just getting through the FAA guide on it takes me a couple of hours when they haven't studied and I hate to rush. Once I did give someone a price of $160 for 2hr flight/2hr ground and then would charge $35 for additional instruction needed but it was a great big hassle since again, they were unprepared. I don't like to undercut the flight schools or other cfis in my area so I usually get their rates too.

Ewfflyer 09-09-2014 07:00 PM

Hourly, $50/hr.

To mirror Eman, shocked how unprepared folks are. I really don't like their expectation to be spoon fed, and that's why I don't cut my rate.

BFR, FR, really? So if a guy comes to you for a BFR you tell them to take a hike? Good thing it's free advice online!

TonyC 09-09-2014 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ewfflyer (Post 1723746)

So if a guy comes to you for a BFR you tell them to take a hike?


Absolutely not! I would see that as a perfect opportunity to teach him something and convince him that I'm the guy he wants to pay for his Flight Review. "Well, the FAA ditched that name over 17 years ago, but I'd be happy to help you brush up on your knowledge and skills with a Flight Review!"

The first item on the list for a Flight Review is "a review of the current general operating and flight rules ..." Now it goes on to say flight rules of Part 91, and the typical non-instructor pilot might not keep up with the certification rules in Part 61, but if the CFI is 17 years behind on Part 61, how can I be sure he'll help me review the current Part 91?


So, if I'm a pilot looking for a Flight Review, and you're advertising a BFR, I might just pass you by, even if you're a few bucks cheaper.


And you're welcome for the free advice. ;)






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Yoda2 09-09-2014 08:20 PM

$50 an hour should be rock bottom; and don't recommend doing the Min FR either; think how you might come off on the witness stand. A good rule that many follow is double the legal Min plus an hour for each year they have not flown, if applicable.

9ESOCCFI 09-09-2014 08:35 PM

I charge a straight $500 fee for all ground and flying associated with a FR. People who use me come prepared and those who don't use me might be the type who would be a liability the next two years.

ChinookDriver47 09-10-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1723461)
If you're still doing BFRs, you're not up on current regulations. In fact, you're years behind. If I were shopping for an FR, I'd look elsewhere.
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Semantics. That's like calling an engine a powerplant. It has nothing to do with the quality of the instruction or review.

Spare me your superiority complex.

Thanks to everyone else for not being a ****.

krudawg 09-10-2014 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by 9ESOCCFI (Post 1723798)
I charge a straight $500 fee for all ground and flying associated with a FR. People who use me come prepared and those who don't use me might be the type who would be a liability the next two years.

I'd bet you have a line out the door of admiring pilots in need of a top-notch Flight Review.

BoilerUP 09-10-2014 03:18 PM

Thank the Administrator we've properly addressed the folly of calling the 61.56(a) Flight Review, which remains due every two years, a "biennial flight review" on the internet.

I too say hourly rate, and have charged $40-50/hr in the past for my time. For somebody on their game it could be as short as 2.5 hours, or as long as it takes for them to obtain proficiency.


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