UA had a 757 approaching Ireland in 2011 experience the same unreliable airspeed.

Initiated two proper stall recoveries before flying pitch and power.

European pilots lack applied decision making experience as a product of their 'accelerated' training. It's not their fault EASA is in a magenta line mentality but it will manifest itself when shtf.

I am certainly glad you do not engage in gross generalisations...

BTW - Referring to my early comment. United stated, at the 2012 North American Airbus Operators Conference, that 40% of their pilots did the same thing the Air France FO did when put into a similar situation in the A320 sim.

And again...the hard data from ICAO and IATA do not back up your comments.

Do you have any details on this? I'm only asking because I'd like to look at the differences between the two.

I'm sure you have the statistics to back up your claim?:rolleyes:

I've been an expat since 1992, conducting line training well before that. I've flown with some great sticks from all over the world and some not so great sticks too. And yes adebord, even from the U.S. It is true that a 250 hour pilot with a frozen ATPL a Boeing/Airbus pilot does not make. It boils down the continued instruction and training they receive when embarking on their career paths from the onset.

Hmmm, not that I need to defend myself here, but I have lived and worked in 5 different countries and speak more than one language fluently. As stated before, I have trained and checked numerous EASA license holders over a significant length of time. They are no better than Americans by any measure, no matter how much theory they think they know over and above what a U.S. licensed pilot has learned via practical training :)

Also I do not claim that Americans are the best pilots in the world. As some may recall if they visit another pilot forum I got into a lengthy discussion on the topic because quite a few Americans were upset that I placed them below number 1 on the list. It's my personal opinion only based on numerous years of training and checking, but I place a couple of other nationalities above Americans as the best overall pilots from a skill and knowledge standpoint as well as being really good guys to fly with. This, of course, is on average. There will always be outliers on either end of the spectrum from all groups.

..I´ve worked and hold licenses from 3 different continents..When I flew in the US, the pilots there were the best..When I flew in Europe, the pilots there were the best..Now, flying in Asia, the pilots here are the best..As you can see, things keep continuously improving..So what´s next..Africa, maybe ??..

Fly safe,
B757

Google>>Incident: Northwest A333 over East China Sea on Jun 23rd 2009, unreliable airspeed

I remember hearing about it, but the only detail I can recall is that both NWA and Air France had the optional Thales pitot tubes installed as opposed to the standard Goodrich pitot tubes. I think EASA recommended or required all A330/A340 operators replace the Thales system with the Goodrich system.

Below is the AD issued by EASA


https://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/easa_...AD_2009-0195_1

Thanks, I'll check it out.