NEDude

Well the DOT would disagree with you.

But if you want to get really picky, I was also at Compass and covered under the flow through to Delta/Northwest. If I was that interested in a legacy job, I already had it.

Try again...

METO Guido

sailingfun

Why did you leave Compass?

NEDude

Because I wanted to do something different. I have stated many times that working for a legacy was never my primary goal. Inside the flight deck, the airplanes all look the same, I wanted some different experiences. Virgin America looked like a fun challenge and it was. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there. But I have always had wanderlust, and when the viable opportunity to live and work overseas arose, I decided to take it.

Denti

But the thing is, it is not a flag of convenience situation there. Lufthansa owns flag carriers in 4 different countries (germany, switzerland, austria, belgium), who are, well, three of them, bstill considered legacy carriers with the corresponding T&Cs. However in the same countries they do own other carriers, who pay only a third of what the local flag carrier pays, flying the same kind of airplanes and routes, under exactly the same rules and regulations. A flag of convenience would take advantage of different rules and regulations in a different state. Which is clearly not the case here.

Of course those many different AOCs do serve a purpose, but then Lufty always had several AOCs running side by side, even before the LCCs invaded the market. Switching between AOCs is not a big issue anymore, neither for aircraft (takes about 4 hours) nor crews (takes two weeks). There are even some carriers that try out interoperability. In my outfit we could, for some time, switch every flight between planes and AOCs that were based in different countries. Simply remember that one has an OE registration when filling out the techlog and not the usual D registration. Aviation across the EU is under common rules and regulations.

Therefore a flag of convenience, in eastern europe for example, would be possible. However, that is simply not needed. Different companies with different T&Cs is simply a divide and conquer tool, and it works very well indeed in western european countries without the need to go east.

Yes, open sky agreements can be renegotiated. And they will at some point. How that ends is open for debate. Especially as the economical relevance of the US, while still high, is declining compared to other areas of the world, like china for example.

Half wing

Wow, that's terrible pay for a Captain. For the last 3 months I broke $24,000 in the right seat including retirement contribution.

NEDude

It has been stated numerous times, pay for pilots in Europe is (presently) not what it is the States.

navigatro

24K total or each month?

just kidding.

Vincent Chase

Whew! Glad you put that out there. I was about to sell all my stock.

I've done extremely well taking financial advice from airline guys!!!
/SARC

Vincent Chase

Oh, such a fitting post! Nice job, METO!