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Old 03-27-2017, 08:43 AM
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If anyone has any experience with these foreign contracts I'm curious as to what they mean in the emails we all get.

Typically the email gives a salary amount and a "days of leave" per year. The highest salary given with the lowest amount of "days of leave". Are "days of leave" like vacation to be used on top of your regular days off or are they inclusive of your normally scheduled days off? Anyone familiar with this would be helpful?
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If anyone has any experience with these foreign contracts I'm curious as to what they mean in the emails we all get.

Typically the email gives a salary amount and a "days of leave" per year. The highest salary given with the lowest amount of "days of leave". Are "days of leave" like vacation to be used on top of your regular days off or are they inclusive of your normally scheduled days off? Anyone familiar with this would be helpful?
Your leave days are vacation days, as in when you get out of China. They are not regular days off like you would have with a 4 days on, 2 days off type of schedule.
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Thanks NED. That makes the numbers make a little more sense. Have you worked on one of these contracts
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Foreign contracts can work you pretty hard on your weeks on. Do not expect the kind of days off like in the U.S. or Europe. It is not uncommon to get around 5-8 days off a month when you are on your rotation. Your leave is separate. Some airlines only pay you when you are "on" rotation. It all depends on the contract. Take your time and read the fine print. Also remember, no union rep to support you if you have an issue. Go to work, fly, get paid and go home. Some folks love doing them, while others decide early on that it's not for them. The high dollar contracts generally are for those who spend the most time in the country flying.
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Foreign contracts can work you pretty hard on your weeks on. Do not expect the kind of days off like in the U.S. or Europe. It is not uncommon to get around 5-8 days off a month when you are on your rotation. Your leave is separate. Some airlines only pay you when you are "on" rotation. It all depends on the contract. Take your time and read the fine print. Also remember, no union rep to support you if you have an issue. Go to work, fly, get paid and go home. Some folks love doing them, while others decide early on that it's not for them. The high dollar contracts generally are for those who spend the most time in the country flying.
5 days off a month? Say what? What kind of block time limits if any do they have over there
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Friend of mine left Suddern and ended up in south China. Absolutely loves it. Brought his wife and kids over. Kids are enrolled in an international school with about a dozen other nationalities. Wife is really enjoying it as well.

The big kicker? Apparently round-eyes are limited to two legs a day over there, so he's home pretty much every single night.
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Where I was in Asia it was 125 hrs in 30 consecutive days.
Being on rotation you could fly close to 125 hrs in a month.
I think 8 days off a month was pretty standard.
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My experience was between 8-10 days off during my 28 day stretch. But my days were usually quite long, with 4 legs being most common. The CAAC requires a 36 hour break in any seven day period. 4 leg days combined with a 40 hour per week limit and the 36 hours off requirement resulted in 4-5 days on then 2-3 days off.

My contract paid monthly.
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Most contracts say they pay hourly on top of the salary posted over 80hrs a month I guess it's safe to say that that is going to happen and by a lot every single month.
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Most contracts say they pay hourly on top of the salary posted over 80hrs a month I guess it's safe to say that that is going to happen and by a lot every single month.
If you fly 80 hours per month that is 960 per year. I doubt you would get much overtime towards the 1000 hour limit possibly 20 hours overtime is about all you could obtain before scheduling would shot you off on the 1000 hour limit.
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