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Old 07-17-2017, 06:13 PM
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:32 PM
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Already covered here. And it happened in a well established manner. Last time it was BA pilots that worked in the cabin and kept the planes flying, this time it is a wetlease from a major shareholder.
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Do you have a source for that? Seems highly unlikely any airline would have that kind of pilot surplus and the time to train them for the cabin.
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It was in the slump time and there was quite a bit of a discussion about that on pprune. Dunno when exactly, but somewhere in the 2009-2012 timeframe. And no, nowadays they don't have the surplus workforce in the flightdeck to do that, that why they wet leased in Qatar, which, by the way is of course completely legal in europe.

Found at least one newspaper article about that: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...er-strike.html

Training for pilots is just about a few hours, after all we are already trained in SEP for the cabin side as well, that is a basic EASA requirement.
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It was in the slump time and there was quite a bit of a discussion about that on pprune. Dunno when exactly, but somewhere in the 2009-2012 timeframe. And no, nowadays they don't have the surplus workforce in the flightdeck to do that, that why they wet leased in Qatar, which, by the way is of course completely legal in europe.

Found at least one newspaper article about that: British Airways 'paying pilots £166 an hour to cover strike' - Telegraph

Training for pilots is just about a few hours, after all we are already trained in SEP for the cabin side as well, that is a basic EASA requirement.
It's legal to perform struck work in the US however it is still scabbing. I can only find a union claim they used pilots. Can't find any proof it happened.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:55 AM
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Oh, it did happen. With BALPAs being neutral about it too. Which is pretty much the same as saying, well, go ahead with it. A union that is offically "neutral" about what you call scabbing, and behind the scenes very much in favor, that is what happened in a nutshell.

See also https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15...rew-strike/amp

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/05/brit-m17.html
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Oh, it did happen. With BALPAs being neutral about it too. Which is pretty much the same as saying, well, go ahead with it. A union that is offically "neutral" about what you call scabbing, and behind the scenes very much in favor, that is what happened in a nutshell.

See also https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15...rew-strike/amp

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/05/brit-m17.html
So you're one of the Qatar scabs. Rationalize it all you want... you're a SCAB abd should be treated as such.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:19 AM
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Your comment is out of the line. If you never worked in the Middle East than you have no idea what are you talking about. Unions in the Middle East are illegal and anyone who would "strike", would face jail time. So, in other words...if the company tells you to go fly to UK for a month, you either go to work or you quit. I hope you got the message
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Originally Posted by skyslave View Post
Your comment is out of the line. If you never worked in the Middle East than you have no idea what are you talking about. Unions in the Middle East are illegal and anyone who would "strike", would face jail time. So, in other words...if the company tells you to go fly to UK for a month, you either go to work or you quit. I hope you got the message
Same thing has happened in the US. I admit they are tough choices but still a choice. Review the last Spirit strike in the US for a similar situation.
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Originally Posted by skyslave View Post
Your comment is out of the line. If you never worked in the Middle East than you have no idea what are you talking about. Unions in the Middle East are illegal and anyone who would "strike", would face jail time. So, in other words...if the company tells you to go fly to UK for a month, you either go to work or you quit. I hope you got the message
Got it, tough spot to be in, no argument there. Flying struck work however makes you a Scab, there's no addendum to that. ^^^^See the Falcon Air pilots that flew NK pax during their strike, and more importantly the ones that refused.
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