Qatar scabs
#11
Your comment is out of the line. If you never worked in the Middle East than you have no idea what are you talking about. Unions in the Middle East are illegal and anyone who would "strike", would face jail time. So, in other words...if the company tells you to go fly to UK for a month, you either go to work or you quit. I hope you got the message
And so is the fact that they are scabs.
#12
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 97
Or British Airways pilots, organized in BALPA, working as cabin crew to cover flights during industrial action of their cabin crew. It did happen, it might happen again in the next downturn.
As i said, the world isn't black and white, and i certainly will not call those colleagues, that have to face certain realities, names. Sure, i would love for them to call in sick, but that is simply not possible as freely as in germany in other countries. For every sick call i have a right by law to get full payment for the next six weeks (including full overtime pay for the months before that call), and up to 9 months under my companies CLA. And yes, as long as it is a different diagnosis each time, as often as i like or have to per year. Thank god most people do not abuse that one.
How many refused to work when their pensions were slashed to bits? Or their payrate reduced onesided by the company in the last downturn? Or did you meekly go to work and carried on working for less and pennies on the dollar in pensions? Unthinkable over here, we would call that cowardice, but then, we live under different rules.
#13
Nah, i do work in germany, not Qatar. And i am a union rep, however, i do know about realities of life, especially in a diverse market like europe where every country still has its own working laws, and many do not allow to refuse work if you are ordered to cover flights for another company on strike. Or even within the same company. As the pilots at easyjet discovered that tried to go on strike with no effect whatsoever as other easyjet pilots had to cover their work. Otherwise they would not only be without protection if the company wanted to fire them, they would had to pay all damages the company had due to that strike, which is of course far in excess of their salary.
Or British Airways pilots, organized in BALPA, working as cabin crew to cover flights during industrial action of their cabin crew. It did happen, it might happen again in the next downturn.
As i said, the world isn't black and white, and i certainly will not call those colleagues, that have to face certain realities, names. Sure, i would love for them to call in sick, but that is simply not possible as freely as in germany in other countries. For every sick call i have a right by law to get full payment for the next six weeks (including full overtime pay for the months before that call), and up to 9 months under my companies CLA. And yes, as long as it is a different diagnosis each time, as often as i like or have to per year. Thank god most people do not abuse that one.
How many refused to work when their pensions were slashed to bits? Or their payrate reduced onesided by the company in the last downturn? Or did you meekly go to work and carried on working for less and pennies on the dollar in pensions? Unthinkable over here, we would call that cowardice, but then, we live under different rules.
Or British Airways pilots, organized in BALPA, working as cabin crew to cover flights during industrial action of their cabin crew. It did happen, it might happen again in the next downturn.
As i said, the world isn't black and white, and i certainly will not call those colleagues, that have to face certain realities, names. Sure, i would love for them to call in sick, but that is simply not possible as freely as in germany in other countries. For every sick call i have a right by law to get full payment for the next six weeks (including full overtime pay for the months before that call), and up to 9 months under my companies CLA. And yes, as long as it is a different diagnosis each time, as often as i like or have to per year. Thank god most people do not abuse that one.
How many refused to work when their pensions were slashed to bits? Or their payrate reduced onesided by the company in the last downturn? Or did you meekly go to work and carried on working for less and pennies on the dollar in pensions? Unthinkable over here, we would call that cowardice, but then, we live under different rules.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,477
I think you are fighting a losing battle here. These simpletons won't give up.Most of the guys on this forum are ignorant to the realities of life outside of the United States. I point the clueless to the realities of life. Just don't understand why it's not working.They think a 24 hour layover in London counts as experiencing other parts of the world. I've been everywhere in the world & know everything about the world.As I have discovered, they clearly believe everything in the aviation industry works as it does in the United States. I'd have to explain all this to you in Russian but the US keeps saving Europe from itself.
What's wrong with METO and Whackmaster and the like!? NEDude is simply engaging in smart and well-thought out discussion about NAI/NAS, and they are engaging in personal attacks or spread ALPA's non-evidence driven propaganda! Did the high school you guys went to not teach you how to form a proper argument?
#15
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: 30W
Posts: 11
Wasn't a clever move, IMHO, and you better believe our CC haven't forgot about it.
Quite ironic, then, that some of the 300 are the most offended by the Qatar leases. These leases are costing our shorthaul pilots money when their flights get subbed.
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