IAG Buying Norwegian?
04-13-2018, 05:32 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by captjns
What makes your pride of the skies so wonerful to work for? From what Ive read on the UAL section, your airline doesn’t seem to be beer and skittles.
Now, MOP, in your own words, no rhetoric mind you... why do you think NAI, other than low pay, isn’t such a great place to work for.
Again, you need to share with us your own experiences, and not form the 7-11 cashier’s working experience with them.
How did you find the training at NAI?
How did you find the condition of the aircraft when you flew for NAI?
Layover hotels provided by NAI?
Please enlighten this forum.
Now, MOP, in your own words, no rhetoric mind you... why do you think NAI, other than low pay, isn’t such a great place to work for.
Again, you need to share with us your own experiences, and not form the 7-11 cashier’s working experience with them.
How did you find the training at NAI?
How did you find the condition of the aircraft when you flew for NAI?
Layover hotels provided by NAI?
Please enlighten this forum.
2. I will never step foot on a NAI aircraft so I will never be able to answer that question.
3. I don't care how good the layovers are.....who would work for an airline based on the hotels?
FLAG OF CONVENIENCE.....Im not interested in my career turning into the shipping industry.
04-13-2018, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by T28driver
Can I play?
Also, for clarity, are we just talking about NAI? Or can we talk about NAS, NAL, NAA, and NAU too in the conglomerate sense? Asking because some people like to play that game. Let’s just call it “Norwegian”. Deal? Deal.
I don’t care about the training. European knowledge and medical standards are generally far more rigorous than the ones we deal with in the US.
I don’t care about the layover hotels.
The aircraft are probably beautiful, since most of them are brand new.
If you read my post history, I don’t believe I have ever discussed the safety of the airline, the professionalism of the crews, or the maintenance.
That isn’t what this is about. It’s about protecting the jobs and standard of living for pilots here in the United States. Norwegian playing by the rules. I want those rules to change. Preferably in a way that excludes them, and the other carriers that will follow, from the US market.
Also, for clarity, are we just talking about NAI? Or can we talk about NAS, NAL, NAA, and NAU too in the conglomerate sense? Asking because some people like to play that game. Let’s just call it “Norwegian”. Deal? Deal.
I don’t care about the training. European knowledge and medical standards are generally far more rigorous than the ones we deal with in the US.
I don’t care about the layover hotels.
The aircraft are probably beautiful, since most of them are brand new.
If you read my post history, I don’t believe I have ever discussed the safety of the airline, the professionalism of the crews, or the maintenance.
That isn’t what this is about. It’s about protecting the jobs and standard of living for pilots here in the United States. Norwegian playing by the rules. I want those rules to change. Preferably in a way that excludes them, and the other carriers that will follow, from the US market.
However, you miss the basic point that your own carrier, provided, you are employed by AA, UAL, or DAL, that they are probably committing greater harm to your lively hood with outsourcing your work in the name of code sharing.
If I may ask T28... how long have you been with a your current carrier?
04-13-2018, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
FLAG OF CONVENIENCE.....Im not interested in my career turning into the shipping industry.
And, please, all of the Norwegian defenders, stop with the “everything they are doing is legal” argument. Flags of convenience are legal in the shipping world. They shouldn’t be. The way that Norwegian is operating is legal...right now. Laws and treaties can change. There are far more people employed by the US airline industry than were by the US shipping industry even at its height.
Votes matter these days.
04-13-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Not unless you are a designated agent, and or representative of MOP.
However, you miss the basic point that your own carrier, provided, you are employed by AA, UAL, or DAL, that they are probably committing greater harm to your lively hood with outsourcing your work in the name of code sharing.
However, you miss the basic point that your own carrier, provided, you are employed by AA, UAL, or DAL, that they are probably committing greater harm to your lively hood with outsourcing your work in the name of code sharing.
Unlike most, I have firsthand knowledge of the shipping industry and I have been directly affected by flags of convenience. So I beat the drum and try to rally the troops, because Master of Puppets is right. The flag of convenience model in aviation must be eliminated, preferably through legislative means.
04-14-2018, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Most recently, Toys R Us.
04-26-2018, 08:01 AM
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Update-
Norwegian reveals that they have attracted interest from other parties after the IAG announcement. Bjørn Kjos has also softened his resistance to a sale, now saying that everything is for sale if the price is right.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ids-beyond-iag
Norwegian reveals that they have attracted interest from other parties after the IAG announcement. Bjørn Kjos has also softened his resistance to a sale, now saying that everything is for sale if the price is right.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ids-beyond-iag
04-26-2018, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
Update-
Norwegian reveals that they have attracted interest from other parties after the IAG announcement. Bjørn Kjos has also softened his resistance to a sale, now saying that everything is for sale if the price is right.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ids-beyond-iag
Norwegian reveals that they have attracted interest from other parties after the IAG announcement. Bjørn Kjos has also softened his resistance to a sale, now saying that everything is for sale if the price is right.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ids-beyond-iag
Another take on the 'takeover' prospects: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.b1985c2a506c
04-26-2018, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
After Norwegian's quarterly report and restated 2017 financials, I'm sure everything's for sale because the cash burn rate is stupefying. They're papering over the cash burn rate by selling everything including the office toilet paper and light bulbs. It would be cheaper to shut down the operation and start a huge bonfire using $100 bills as fuel.
Another take on the 'takeover' prospects: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.b1985c2a506c
Another take on the 'takeover' prospects: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.b1985c2a506c
Latest news they can’t take all deliveries and spinning off a leasing company
That’s the nail in their coffin
Laker air all over again
Freddy talk to them
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