Well, scope clauses do exist, i have written a pretty strong one myself as a union rep. But how it will hold up in court is a completely different case and does depend on each countries regulation. And of course, union contracts end at each countries border, the EU is after all not a country like the US, it is a rather loose conglomerate of countries with very different regulations in many areas, and common ones in others. Labor law, except a very minimal standard (at least 7 days off a month, 4 weeks of paid vacation, stuff like that), is not common law.

So a scope clause in germany does not hold sway in the other 28 EU countries plus the 3 EAA countries. Lufthansa mainline actually had a scope clause for a long time, and their management worked with that. In the end the union lost a court case and now they do not have any scope clause at all. Getting a company in a different country, or just building one up is an easy way to get around stuff in your home country.

 

Hopefully no one hires any of these Norwegian A-holes who try to undercut everyone else. I wonder how many more months they will be around.

 

Do you share the same sentiments of pilots flying for US ULCC’s, undercutting fares on the same route as your airline? Do you consider those, A-holes too?

Would you refuse, and lead the charge by putting out the message to your group not to fly routes, that your airline is undercutting a competitor’s fare for the same domestic route?

Half wing, on the other side of the fence, if you did fly that same route, would you consider yourself to be???... well, you can finish the posit.

 

If Norwegian were to go under, Norwegian guys would not have any issues getting hired. There are very few Americans at Norwegian, and European pilots don't care as Norwegian is set up like many European airlines. Many airlines run on multiple AOCs, and while many utilize contracts, European employment law means that regardless of using a contract or not, the pilots are real employees and their work rules must comply with the labor law of the country in which they are based. Most Norwegian pilots are unionized too. Overall Norwegian pay rates and benefits are around the middle of the pack when it compared to other European airlines. Less than the legacy airlines, but higher than the likes of Tui/Thompson, Eurowings, Euro-Atlantic, and other smaller carriers who do wide-body long-haul flying.

 

Does that apply to Norwegian pilots who are based in Europe flying for a European airline with families to support.

Nobody is undercutting you and that is a FACT!!!

Grow a pair you spineless doechebag, get off your high horse and stop preaching to others on whom they should work for!!